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27-01-2014, 11:39 AM
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Unable to forget concentration on breath
I am doing meditation since one month.
I am meditating 2 or 3 hrs everyday but i am unable to forget concentration on breath.
And i am unable to go to Alpha state(Zero state) called place of no thoughts.
What else i can do
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27-01-2014, 04:51 PM
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Master
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Salford, UK
Posts: 3,240
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Sorry, I'm not sure what you mean - are you saying you can't take your focus off your breathing? Or do you mean you're trying to concentrate on your breathing but you lose concentration?
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27-01-2014, 07:23 PM
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Experiencer
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 464
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I think I know what you're saying, you want to take your focus away from your breathing and have absolutely no thoughts. Isn't reaching the point where you have absolutely nothing on your mind achieved with many months of practice? Focusing only on your breath or sounds is already a really good stage of meditation for someone who's been practicing for a month. I hope someone here has tips on how to reach the Alpha state.
Cheers!
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28-01-2014, 09:02 AM
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Master
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Australia
Posts: 4,238
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You can listen to a relaxing CD. That will help you get into the alpha state.
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29-01-2014, 06:37 AM
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THanks for the replies..
I was following the same as you said is Observation and the music but still finding the way to get Alpha state.
Do i need to take or to learn any techniques to achieve it.
Cause i am eagerly waiting to get it.Ofcourse it will take some time (may be months) but still need to know the ways to get soon..
Recently i was browsing for the same and got the info that cleansing of legs in salt water gives good result..Is it Right? (spiritualresearchfoundation)
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29-01-2014, 08:59 AM
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Master
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Australia
Posts: 4,238
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It comes down to practice. I listen to the sounds of rain. It is very relaxing. I find your mind has to be relaxed as well. If you are thinking of lots of things your mind will not relax so it is less likely to get into the alpha state. Just keep practicing and if you persevere with it, eventually it will work but it will take time. What helps me to get relaxed is to breathe slowly and hold for five seconds for about five times or until you need to, then breathe normally.
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29-01-2014, 09:11 AM
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HI astralsuzy..
Sure i will practice for more time and is it required any chant or Anapanasati is good enough?
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29-01-2014, 01:15 PM
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If I can give some advice it is this
When you meditate, after you have relaxed your body with your breathing (I strech as well) what you need to do is listen to yourself think. You need to separate your consciousness from your thoughts ans see (listen) to your thoughts...don't provoke them in any way, just watch them and let them (your thougts) go with the flow....after a while you will find that your thoughts are getting farther and farther away, it will be like they are coming out of a tunnel. Then yuo will reach that state of Zero thoughts. At this point anything can happen :)
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30-01-2014, 06:49 PM
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Master
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Auckland, New Zealand
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Thinking and the reliance it shares with having an identity has been with us a very long time so it stands to reason having both disappear cannot happen overnight... but it does happen eventually.
The watching, as suggested above, is integral to getting there as is patience in allowing the watching a foothold... which is all it needs.
So give yourself a break and allow the transition to one that eventuates as you become comfortable with the new sensations as they arise. Time is a great healer.
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31-01-2014, 02:57 AM
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Moderator
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Southwest, USA
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When you love something, there is no trouble with anything.
Meditating is as hard as holding your baby and looking into it's eyes.
Are you thinking or wishing you could get to alpha or a place of no thought, etc?
No.
Love God. Love who you are... pure and simple spirit, consciousness, still and pure.
Anyway, that works for me.
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Prepare yourself for the coming astral journey of death by daily riding in the balloon of God-perception.
Through delusion you are perceiving yourself as a bundle of flesh and bones, which at best is a nest of troubles.
Meditate unceasingly, that you may quickly behold yourself as the Infinite Essence, free from every form of misery. ~Paramahansa's Guru's Guru.
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