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Old 17-09-2016, 01:23 AM
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Dark energy is only the contaminated dark cloud inside an evil god acting as his booster of his energy. It's a wrong method to practice higher level of dharma for spirit. The good energy is pure and fruitful but dark energy is harmful to himself.
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Old 17-09-2016, 01:34 AM
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If the intentions are dark then it does not exist beyond form. Only intentions from the heart exist beyond 3D. However there is dark formless energy out there. Perhaps it is the word intention that is confusing and maybe its just better to say it is darkness. You have to know who you are deep down to know who they are. I did some very deep inner work on myself and I know that there is no emotional charge with darkness for me. I understand who I am therefore I understand who they are. I understand their source and that is all I need to know. This is their higher purpose for me to go further within myself to understand who I am better.


You are describing what I am saying from within what I am saying--

If you understood the intentions of universe nothing is out place, so anytime we misunderstand the universe we experience a misalignment with our own self and experience things that are not according to our own will which is the one will--

It is the nature of ignorance as the root of evil, that if we should not understand our ignorance we could not act in harmony with the universe, thus knowledge, philosophy, religion, all ways to attempt to orientate us to those differences we did not know how to cope with-- And all of them dealing in a manner of solving the issues at hand, rather than understanding the expressions at play--

Ignorance is the root of evil, we experience evil in direct proportion to our ignorance; because unless ignorance is removed and all things accounted for and understood beyond form which lays in form itself, we can only act in a way where not everything moves according to our self, and thus some element or quality is diminished in our experience and these as our reflection are as alive as us and only understand things in relation to us, and you are the cause of its suffering because it you whom is suffering--
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Old 17-09-2016, 02:05 AM
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Buddha has Scriptures of words inside him and a symbol on his chest is to avoid any bad inference or dark energy to enter his body, not to have idea to get harmory with dark energy/evil. Otherwise he will be controlled by the evil or fighting them.

And those who was misled by the"great evil" god will be in a way bewitched by him and not known.

There is no harmony unless can transform them to be new pure good gods. Otherwise confrontation will never stop for either side.
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Old 17-09-2016, 03:57 AM
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Buddha has Scriptures of words inside him and a symbol on his chest is to avoid any bad inference or dark energy to enter his body, not to have idea to get harmory with dark energy/evil. Otherwise he will be controlled by the evil or fighting them.

And those who was misled by the"great evil" god will be in a way bewitched by him and not known.

There is no harmony unless can transform them to be new pure good gods. Otherwise confrontation will never stop for either side.


It is not that you are getting in harmony with evil; it is that evil occurs when we are out of harmony-- You are chasing puffs of smoke when you try avoid evil, because evil does not exist in spirit, evil exists in form; and the form of evil is your own ignorance--

You see, when there is no evil in your presence; you cannot know if you are ignorant, you cannot fight evil, because you cannot fight your ignorance.. dealing with evil in any way, means you are influenced by evil; there for if you see evil, you have found evil within yourself and you become corrupt immediately--

You cannot know what truly protected the Buddha until you know how such scripture on the chest would be written; for you will be confused if you do not know what scripture is, in relation to the teacher-- you are thinking in about what is written, rather than upon whom the one who is teaching; you have risen his power above himself, the scripture did not protect the Buddha from running into evil; the Buddha was the scripture in which evil could not touch and would be burned upon approach--

If you are thinking you are turning old gods into new gods; you do not even respect the life you are dealing with, a respect for the ways of life; because you think you can turn and old god into a new god, you do not realize what it is that lives beyond light-- because you are thinking such a thing is an object, and you are dealing a thing in which there are no objects, you cannot rid yourself of something that you aren't dealing with, you cannot rid yourself of something you pretending to be if you don't know you are pretending to be it--

Evil is that which misleads you from the truth, and this is of such a nature that its truth to the core is that evil is misleading-- And that you cannot deal with evil and not be misled, you cannot see evil without being misled, you cannot know evil without being misled; but you are so suspicious of your own being, a suspicion that can only exist if evil exists for you to be suspicious of your ignorance-- If you were not ignorant you would not suspect, because you would suspect something other than what is-- But than if you cannot suspect something other than what is, how can you deal with something further than what it is, and so you must transmute evil into the higher forces, or darkness into the light.. so that the light can use darkness to make itself brighter by brightening darkness, and that darkness can use light, to make darkness darker by dimming light-- And that this becomes a fundamental understanding of a state where both can increasingly become themselves in an infinite manner while not only getting along, but directly the reason for each others growth which are dependent on each other in the first place--
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Old 17-09-2016, 04:15 AM
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You are describing what I am saying from within what I am saying--

If you understood the intentions of universe nothing is out place, so anytime we misunderstand the universe we experience a misalignment with our own self and experience things that are not according to our own will which is the one will--

It is the nature of ignorance as the root of evil, that if we should not understand our ignorance we could not act in harmony with the universe, thus knowledge, philosophy, religion, all ways to attempt to orientate us to those differences we did not know how to cope with-- And all of them dealing in a manner of solving the issues at hand, rather than understanding the expressions at play--

Ignorance is the root of evil, we experience evil in direct proportion to our ignorance; because unless ignorance is removed and all things accounted for and understood beyond form which lays in form itself, we can only act in a way where not everything moves according to our self, and thus some element or quality is diminished in our experience and these as our reflection are as alive as us and only understand things in relation to us, and you are the cause of its suffering because it you whom is suffering--

Evil would be ignorant because it has no consciousness. One is not ignorant and not suffering if one knows the truth of who they are. Then you can understand the higher truth of evil.
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Old 17-09-2016, 04:31 AM
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Evil would be ignorant because it has no consciousness. One is not ignorant and not suffering if one knows the truth of who they are. Then you can understand the higher truth of evil.

If evil exists as something that is ultimately something that cannot be ignorant, that evil would be the only thing that one could understand to be harmony with.. because one could not be in harmony with something that is ignorant of itself to be dealt with. If such is true you cause evil to be the only guiding power, because it is the one thing that cannot be understood, if it does not understand itself to be the self that it is. If it has a self, it has something to become aware of, a truth to its nature, but if you can know it's nature and not it, than if it does not know this same truth already at some level, to be it. But it is dark because it cannot be itself because it does not know itself.. and the only way for that to happen is if the person who allows evil to exist to understand themselves so that no evil can approach you. So that they know who they are as you know who you are. But if anything is not conscious, it is those things you are unconsciously doing that appear unconscious to you, because you do not recognize your own consciousness because you are unconscious of your absolute control of them.
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Old 17-09-2016, 06:08 AM
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It is not that you are getting in harmony with evil; it is that evil occurs when we are out of harmony-- You are chasing puffs of smoke when you try avoid evil, because evil does not exist in spirit, evil exists in form; and the form of evil is your own ignorance--

You see, when there is no evil in your presence; you cannot know if you are ignorant, you cannot fight evil, because you cannot fight your ignorance.. dealing with evil in any way, means you are influenced by evil; there for if you see evil, you have found evil within yourself and you become corrupt immediately--

You cannot know what truly protected the Buddha until you know how such scripture on the chest would be written; for you will be confused if you do not know what scripture is, in relation to the teacher-- you are thinking in about what is written, rather than upon whom the one who is teaching; you have risen his power above himself, the scripture did not protect the Buddha from running into evil; the Buddha was the scripture in which evil could not touch and would be burned upon approach--

If you are thinking you are turning old gods into new gods; you do not even respect the life you are dealing with, a respect for the ways of life; because you think you can turn and old god into a new god, you do not realize what it is that lives beyond light-- because you are thinking such a thing is an object, and you are dealing a thing in which there are no objects, you cannot rid yourself of something that you aren't dealing with, you cannot rid yourself of something you pretending to be if you don't know you are pretending to be it--

Evil is that which misleads you from the truth, and this is of such a nature that its truth to the core is that evil is misleading-- And that you cannot deal with evil and not be misled, you cannot see evil without being misled, you cannot know evil without being misled; but you are so suspicious of your own being, a suspicion that can only exist if evil exists for you to be suspicious of your ignorance-- If you were not ignorant you would not suspect, because you would suspect something other than what is-- But than if you cannot suspect something other than what is, how can you deal with something further than what it is, and so you must transmute evil into the higher forces, or darkness into the light.. so that the light can use darkness to make itself brighter by brightening darkness, and that darkness can use light, to make darkness darker by dimming light-- And that this becomes a fundamental understanding of a state where both can increasingly become themselves in an infinite manner while not only getting along, but directly the reason for each others growth which are dependent on each other in the first place--

Are you not creating an imagination of supper demon? Are you not too naive to frighten yourself? Your saying is: evil won everything and every God. HaHa great.!!!!!

Evil dwells in shaking mind but not tough heart. It's no space for evil in good spirit only the bad are dwelling together. You are too young to realize all this which means your mind is still has space for evil.

Of course people have different quality of personality and types of mind. But there's a Chinese idiom: devil can never win the battle from good (God).

I have said, your viewpoint is only yours. But you have neglected the power of the good(Gods).
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Old 19-09-2016, 12:45 PM
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Is every soul eternal?
Hi RyanWind,


Yes, if one defines the 'soul' as a self-differentiated fully self-conscious portion - part and parcel - of the infinite, eternal, self-existent All-Consciousness.

But such being the case, that doesn't necessarily limit what is unlimited in its omniscience and omnipotence, from being bound by, or making exceptions to its general laws, when it comes to differentiations of that Being/Self.


~ J




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