From conflict to cooperation?

[Goldcup7]

Originally Posted by weareunity

...PS. I have no idea how the rabbit got on to the top of this post. Logic tells me I have bungled and prodded something somewhere in error. 😊

Maybe the rabbit represents the rabbit hole down which we have gone with this thread.

I can't mention rabbit hole without highlighting the ubiquitous hollow hole in the forms of this world. They express the perfect infinite emptiness of our being. Slight Zen-like interlude there.

Regarding different routes, imo all routes come from the One and lead to the One, whilst remaining as the One. There are not many rivers flowing to the sea, there is just water. (Sticking with the Zen theme .)

[JustBe]

Originally Posted by FallingLeaves

feelings are OR maybe fortunately, living like everything is not separate would maybe be more boring than I used to suppose....

Yes life doesn’t require us to speak like a oneness zombie.. hehe

In fact there is much freedom to be more engaged with life as you are, as others are, without worrying too much about where you fit.

I’ve been around guru types who have lost touch with reality to some degree. I prefer to integrate myself and just be me, feelings and all. I’m blessed from doing consistent work on myself, that my feelings are generally centred in clarity. In that balanced state, my movements generally are calm and non reactive. I’m generally observing others with their cranky pants on.

[Miss Hepburn]

When quoting others please only quote 2-3 sentences...ref to the post # if you need to.

[FallingLeaves]

I’ve been around guru types who have lost touch with reality to some degree.

as much as i didn't want to believe it, i think it is kinda 'normal' for people to lose touch with reality while thinking they haven't... even those of us who have a closer relationship with the process of our lives and even see through what some of the others seem to be doing aren't immune as far as i can tell...

gurus aren't beyond it either. Not a single one of them really knows anything 'real'. That was pretty much my first lesson, in spirituality...

I should say I'm not immune either, i just happen to know of this as a very real tendency...

sigh...

[JustBe]

Originally Posted by FallingLeaves

I should say I'm not immune either, i just happen to know of this as a very real tendency...

sigh...

I’ve done it myself in process, it took a more logically brained person to bring me back into my body more directly and move past that point in process. It only took him to say- “you’ve lost touch with reality” to realise. I think it scared me enough to fall back in. Of course it wasn’t easy to face the reality of myself and life, but I’m grateful for that shift. .I can witness more aware and realised now.

I don’t think I would recognise it otherwise. I think it’s harder for guru types who spend endless hours in meditation or altered realities. A meditation teacher who I once had was great for our lead into meditation but for our everyday existence he didn’t have much clue. So discussions weren’t always easy for him where you do require a grounded ‘in touch’ with reality approach.

As humans we are creatures, not immune from inner and outer balance, so even spirituality or too far out of the real world, in its own time and process eventually understands, the lived experience can’t be avoided. The totality of you is very important.

[FallingLeaves]

Originally Posted by JustBe

I’ve done it myself in process, it took a more logically brained person to bring me back into my body more directly and move past that point in process. It only took him to say- “you’ve lost touch with reality” to realise. I think it scared me enough to fall back in. Of course it wasn’t easy to face the reality of myself and life, but I’m grateful for that shift. .I can witness more aware and realised now.

yeah, i've been learning, slowly.... im in sort of a life where little goes right and if I don't toe the line a lot can go wrong... so I'm always being brought back to face myself after all, inasmuch as pisces me would really like to just shuttle off into the clouds and be happy go lucky....

I wonder sometimes though, if it really *has* to be this way. If maybe I'm not just making busywork for myself the way people do with things like the LOA... and wondering if there maybe isn't something better somewhere than all this learning im doing perpetually. But the reality behind that is I'm also very tired of trying to get to a better place sigh.... so, one foot in front of the other and we'll see where I am tomorrow....

[ajay00]

Originally Posted by weareunity

Hello all.
Is it possible to collectively get from conflict to cooperation?

Excellent question.

This is the major challenge facing humanity at the moment.

Conflict can lead to regression and destruction. Cooperation can lead to progress and prosperity.

Sri Sri Ravi Shankar had stated that 90 % of problems arise due to lack of proper communication skills. This also includes proper behavior and etiquette and interaction that develops relationships .

Standing in the shoes of the other also enables one to understand differing perspectives and respond appropriately.

[weareunity]

Hello ajay00--and all.

Thanks for sharing your views.

Feeling connected to others/all else is a feeling which logically reduces inclination for conflict. Imo.

Paradoxically, whilst we measure various aspects of ourselves by relative measure compared to others we are automatically opening the door to the generating of disconnection because relative measure is dependent upon measuring differences. ( note. the concept of diversity however cannot be measured in such a way).

If our self identity becomes reliant upon relative measure that reliance can become more like an addiction---an addiction which at very least does not sit comfortably with fundamental connection.

We might choose to wonder if that mind mechanism which we call the "ego" is a mechanism seeking to satisfy the addiction--for the possible reason that the mind in question has either not had the opportunity to experience fundamental connection, or seems unable to experience that fundamental connection.

Figuring out why either might be the case involves understanding human behaviour, and trying to adjust the mechanism might well include following some established methodologies which help break the addiction--- just so long as the "ego" does not seek to be seen as the best practioner of any such methodology!!

Alternatively, imo. A change of perception regarding the very nature of existence, the logical imo. interconnection, interdependence, inescapable, inevitable connection of all which exists as part of the whole process which we call existence can help establish the feeling of being connected.

Cheers. X.