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Old 08-06-2024, 04:06 PM
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I feel the difference is that intuition gives you the answer to situation when you are not even thinking about that situation. It kinda pops up out of the blue.

But it’s usually the ego talking when you are thinking about that situation and a. Answer comes to you. Well this has been the case for me but it may be different for others.
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Old 08-06-2024, 09:55 PM
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When thoughts are rested and there is no application of conscious effort, the inspiration that inflows comes from universal consciousness, as of our heart’s chosen resonation.

Wherever ego is manifest, there will be conflict, a struggle.


In Zen circles, there is a saying that choice (or conflict/struggle in your words) is a sign of a confused mind. When such conflicts/struggles arise, the inspiration is unlikely to be pure intuition as you duly noted.

However, "when thoughts are rested and there is no application of conscious effort", how do you know that the lack of conscious effort is not due to unquestioned conditioning? This one is more difficult to assess (IMHO).
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Old 08-06-2024, 10:01 PM
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I feel the difference is that intuition gives you the answer to situation when you are not even thinking about that situation. It kinda pops up out of the blue.



As I mentioned in a previous post, "not even thinking about that situation" could mean that unquestioned unconscious conditioning could still be the source and not pure intuition. This is a condition that is not always easy to assess but your post is an excellent start.

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However, "when thoughts are rested and there is no application of conscious effort", how do you know that the lack of conscious effort is not due to unquestioned conditioning? This one is more difficult to assess (IMHO).

Conditioning impacts identity, the ego. When our attention is internalised in silence, in an unending continuum, which is to say, mind melds with heart, operates from heart, we are empty, so to speak, with all coordinates of the Ferris wheel holding equal appeal.

Reworded, there is nothing to assess. Who assesses? Assessment is a function of mind, related to identity. We live spontaneously, in mood and mode both acceptant as well as celebratory. To be as such, is a shift in consciousness, not a doing by volition. How does the shift come about? It varies from soul to soul but process any, it requires ego to recede and heart to occupy centre stage, a quiescent heart whose fulcrum is in the void.
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I remember viewing a property that I was thinking of buying and talking it thru with my partner on the way home. During the discussion he finally said, “actually I don’t think it would be a good buy”.

Then all of a sudden my gut relaxed and I felt calm. I didn’t realise it was uptight and knotted up until he said that. Then I KNEW it was the right thing to do.

It is said that your gut is your second brain. So I have to ask…….is that your intuition?
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It is said that your gut is your second brain. So I have to ask…….is that your intuition?
The vagus nerve, also known as the pneumogastric nerve, is a complex nerve that plays a crucial role in various bodily functions, including digestion, respiration, and heart rate regulation. The stomach nerve plexus, also known as the gastric plexus, is a network of nerve fibers that innervates the stomach and is responsible for regulating its functions.

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The vagus nerve is the longest cranial nerve, originating in the brainstem and extending down to the abdomen. It has both motor and sensory fibers and is responsible for controlling various functions, including:

Motor functions: The vagus nerve innervates the diaphragm, larynx, stomach, and heart, controlling their movements and functions.
Sensory functions: The vagus nerve receives sensory information from the ears, tongue, and visceral organs, including the stomach, liver, and intestines.


This is most likely responsible for that 'gut feeling' and meditation attending sensations of breath wherever they occur can have a positive affect on the functioning of the vagus nerve and its interactions between brain and all the various nerve plexus in the torso.

I would also say the cardiac plexus via the vagus nerve communicates 'heartfelt' to the brain.
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JASC. Thanks for your response, really interesting.

I remember reading that Edgar Cayce quite often mentioned the Vagus nerve in a lot of his readings so I guess it must be important.
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