trance channel - help
 

hey everybody . :)

lately i have been interested in trance channeling.
I know that there is a lot of information on the Internet, but there are things i still have not figured out how they work and how to do it.

can anyone give me some tips or information about how to get into trance state?
how do i give permission to an entity that wants to use my body and channel? (telepathy, speak, thought),
and how do i invite the entity?

all practical information will be great. 💜

This is actually just dangerous enough that I don't feel comfortable telling you. I just had a young man I know get into some really messy trouble trying this on his own. It maybe a while before things are better for him.

If you are really interested, look around your town for someone teaching it. Take a course or workshop and learn all the tools and methods for protecting yourself, getting grounded, setting your frequency, and how to get out of messes and complications.
This is a situation to be very careful with.

i appreciate it so much.
sure i will not try it on myself without someone professional that knows everything about it, i know this is not a game ... im just curious 😄❤

wow, can i ask what happened to the young boy ?😮

i know that it is dangerous without a good protection.

Hello,

I would encourage some thing more powerful and enjoyable than trance channeling. Foster a love bond with your higher self.

Know one knows more about anything than your higher self. If you can discover that the rest is easy.

John

How, John? :hug3:

He's possessed.

Trance channeling is very very dangerous. It means you let something move into your body and speak with your vocal cords. You give up sovereignty over your body and go into a little tiny space in your consciousness, not aware or only dimly aware of what it is doing and saying with your mouth, your vocal cords, your body.

It might not want to leave. It might not know how to operate your body correctly and might not know what the pressure on the bladder means or that feeling when you have to go poo and you might make 'messes' of yourself in public, it might have been a long time since it was in a body and be interested in nothing more than continuous sex or drinking, it might not want to go to your job or school, it might not like your friends and family and screech in foreign off-world languages at them threateningly,
.....and when it's finally done joyriding in your body you might not have much of a life to come back into...

...get a feel for just how messy it can be?

Hi,

The how is a very individualiatic thing. The web site link in my signature attempts to guide those interested in these things. However it is not a formula.

We all have an intellect which wants direction for some thing like this. Now if you ask your higher self that question, instead of me, the energy of your intent will be greatly appreciated. Trust your intuition and your inclinations on how to proceed.

Using your imagination is a good way to start. Ask a question and then guess what that answer might be. Have a discussion where your higher self is allowed to make suggestions. Then put those insights into practice. Have that follow up conversation where you get to talk about the results of your efforts.

This is a full body experience. How you feel will influence your logical reasoning. What keeps most of us from success in these things is our own intellectual objections. That is why many traditionally use trance channeling to get the intellect out of the way. In my view it is best if you can train your brain to step aside and allow your intuition to have its say.

John

Thank you very kindly.

Hello

Its something best done with a group setting in a class setting with someone that is well versed in it. It is not something I would suggest is learned from a book or tried alone. There is a lot out there not only from those in the non living world but those in the living world that can Astral Travel that hold the energy to attach.

I was 16 when I did my first attempt at this there was this figure that would come and stand in the hallway under a furnace vent that I wanted to know more about. I pulled him in closer and closer til he was part of me. That was not a good plan, as he was not the relative I felt he was. My Guides or Higher Self stepped in and removed him from the house and my presence.

I have done trance work where I have allowed a Spirit to enter me, and its is a huge drain on yourself being the host. It is better to let them walk along with you connected but not in your space.

I do have one touching moment I shared with someone in a spiritual group setting. There was an elderly man that attended and he was in a chair, he was not always of sound mind, so at times he would sit alone as he was hard to understand. I would sit with him and we would chat. I somehow could bridge that gap with him and understand most of what he said.

He told me of his wife that had passed and a Son that he so missed. He would talk about how nice his wife's touch of a kiss was. She was very strong as a Medium and she came in one afternoon to me. He was getting more ready to cross but so feared it. She asked if she could enter me and if I would share a "kiss" with him.

I asked him if that would be OK and he assured me he trusted in the energy being pure with in us. So I allowed it to happen. She entered me and we shared a kiss him and I. Then she left me and I realized that we were not so alone in that space that we felt we were. His living Son had come to get him, and the Reverend that lead the group was there looking at us....and two others. His Son said I saw "Mom" over you and the look of peace on my Dad's face, so had the others that felt the energy presence. It was the most special moment I have ever shared.

I was with him the day before he passed over, and I helped him see whom was waiting for him to cross. He went peacefully over.

Its not something I would ever do again.....I feel it was that one time calling of peace that I could offer.

How beautiful Lynn.

Hi,

There was a Kryon workshop about channeling in June 2017. There were some very interesting insights presented that support many of the concepts shared by those involved in this discussion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzDGXdsBN_A

What was not clarified in this message which is elsewhere in the Kryon material is that our conduit for communication is the higher self.

John

Thank you John. very interesting!

Crystal, I appreciate your sharing. i hope the boy is healthy and returned to himself... there is no doubt that there is an absolute need for understanding and protection in everything related to this.

hey Lynn.
Thank you so much for sharing your beautiful experience.
I melted. ❤

Crystal Song is right. DANGEROUS Why would you want trance channeling - that means you wouldn't even know if anyone came in or what they said, let alone what else would happen. You'd need someone there to tell you what happened. Not wise to open up to the unknown like that - you can't assume it would be a good and loving spirit of a high level. You might bring in something you'll wish you could undo. I wonder if what you mean is to just channel. Even that, I think you need training to know how to handle things.

I would Echo what John and lynn have said

Namaste

Just to clarify in case I came across too critical without explanation. I started as a student of metaphysics and have channeled and done healings for over 35 years. So when I try to impress Maaya2809 on the possible danger of trans channeling (or channeling) without training, I do know something about it. What started me to study was because I had received a contact and didn't understand who or what it was.

Ah, but with trance channeling it is less likely for the ego to get in the way of things. No filter.

That said, I still would be leery of doing that type of channeling. I don’t trust the spirit world very much—heck I have trouble trusting my guides at times.

Greetings.

The method is different for everybody and we have to find out what it is that 'triggers' the trance state, through trial and error. Also, after some time, our psyche gets used to the 'trigger' and so, a new one must be found.

Also, most of the trance states won't involve a channel because while you are in that state, you aren't able to channel.

A few nights ago, I was listening to a very slow repetition of the mantra "Om Namah Shivaya" which went for 30 minutes and I started chanting along, but the mantra required very deep inhalations, a retention of breath for about 30 seconds, followed by a very deep and full exhalation.

After a while, I was not aware of my body...the bed I was sitting on...and I found myself doing many hand mudras and gazing at my own hands without any thoughts...what followed was me going into a Balinese Legong style dance in full on trance-mode.

After a while, I passed out and woke up the next morning upside-down in my bed...my feet were where my pillow was and my head was where my feet usually were.

Occasionally I will channel a Deva in trance and sometimes I'll be aware of it and be able to write it down, but other times I'm so far gone, I don't recall it and it's up to another person to be present...but if I am alone, I sorta go 'why bother?' lol

Thank you, thank you, I can not thank you enough.

I am thanking you because I have been through it. This very thing.

I have told the story here before, and was met with flat out crickets with the exception of one member who was kind to me enough to listen.

It happened to both myself and a friend. He was possessed first his eyes turned black, and he spit Latin at me- not of his own voice- I was able to talk him down by appealing to the human within him. I had every faith that the human within was still within.

Now I talked to him appealed to my friend as him without any doubt he was there, I re-assured him that I knew he was there. I told him "This is not you, I am going to hug you, I do not care if you hurt me, I realize it isn't you doing this." I hugged my friend and spoke softly to him, and after a while the entity, demon, thing, what have you left him.

His eyes returned to normal he began to be himself again, he thanked me for helping him.

My ignorant gutsy self proclaimed thank god it's over.

Thinking that it wouldn't dare attempt to pull anything with me.

It happened to me.

It used my vocals in a way that isn't human, at instances I could speak and this thing could speak somehow through my apparatus at the same instant- it felt very vibrational. My eyes according to my friend, and like my friend's had turned fully jet black.

I felt angry and hateful. I was very aware this was happening, what I was feeling, and what I was doing. I could not control a word that came out of my mouth. It would stick my own tongue deep into my throat in an attempt to choke/ suffocate me. I kept motioning to my throat of my own will to my friend trying to get him to realize and understand that it was choking me, he didn't believe me when I was able to tell him that, even after all of this. He very well then and there proclaimed that yes we both had been possessed, but he still argued with me over myself being choked.

Now I too had spoken Latin as did my friend at my friend due to this being while spitting at my friend.

The thing is the entity underestimated my intuition, and I was able to ascertain the last phrase the entity was saying: It said as follows- "Swallow the poison yourself". It spit this at my friend.

I could understand that this last bit as I heard it, was the same phrase my friend had spat at me under his possession.

At that time I knew nothing of St. Benedict.

Years later my father gave me a St. Benedict Medal. One evening as I spoke to him about it I had asked what the Latin meant- he recited it to me.

Hearing it didn't register to me at the time. When I looked it up myself a couple weeks later and saw for myself what it said- at the very end of the St. Benedict story to his poisoners "Swallow the poison yourselves".

I to my horror realized, the ugly truth. The entity was Mocking it.

This happens every day to many many people often times to a lesser degree- often times it gets worse. I notice it happen to people around me- they have black eyes- or their eyes become black- sometimes you have to snap someone out of it- yelling to them etc. They can wake up in a shock and not mean their actions.

The truth of the matter is- this type of thing happens to me more often than I like.

I will catch it in the mirror, my own eyes being black. Most of the time as soon as I catch it it will thankfully (!!!!!!!!!) simply depart.

The thing is you don't even have to try to channel anything, for me it happens, anytime, anywhere, most of the time I am alone, and catch it in the mirror.

These are not the ramblings of a crazy person. I have seen this myself. Other people have seen it. Not many are willing to admit it.

Op- what you are thinking about is beyond dangerous. No it isn't a game. Someone possessed by one of these entities was heck bent on smashing my and my father's skull in with a hatchet once, with his black eyes and all. It's a miracle he turned and left after a bit of yelling and talking at the guy, as even when the black had departed and his human sober self was back- he still was trying to get at us. Until finally I said something else to him along the lines of "What the hell do you think you are doing"? And the straw broke the camel's back long enough for him to snap out of it and turn tail and run.

I as many others here respect CrystalSong as a member. I have no doubt that what she is saying is true. Please trust her.

Others may caution to do what you will at your own peril and simply be aware of consequences. I implore that you not try this at all.

Interesting story.

I have also been told to 'swallow the poison myself' a few times, but because I am a Hindu Shaivite...

When the universe was created, the cosmic milk ocean was all churned up.

Mount Meru was inverted and placed on the back of the Kumera tortoise (Lord Vishnu) and the rainbow serpent, Vasuki was wound around the mountain...the Suras (good guys) were on one side...the Asuras (bad dudes) on the other...and they were turning Mount Meru around and around to churn the ocean up.

During the churning, a lot of things came out of the ocean...the wish-fulfilling cow (kamdhenu), the 7 celestial maidens, the Kasturba diamond, Soma (the nectar of immortality) and a deadly poison called Hala-Hala.

This also corresponds to the churning of the 'heart ocean' by positive and negative emotions which gives rise to the Soma (bliss of unconditional love) and also to Hala-Hala (anger, hate and all physical maladies and afflictions which are psychosomatic in nature).

Now, this Hala-Hala poison was so potent and corrosive, that if a single drop spilled, it could destroy the world...none of the Suras nor Asuras could handle it...not even Lord Vishnu or Lord Brahma could handle it...and so, they called upon Lord Shiva to try and contain it...and He did so, by drinking it...it gave Him a blue throat in the process, which gave Him the name of Neelkanth (the blue-throated one).

Many times when I am physically or mentally afflicted, I would pray to Lord Shiva and ask Him to swallow my poison (the poison of my heart which affects my body) and quite a few times He has told me to swallow the poison myself...which means that I must heal myself and do things to take care of myself better before He can heal me...that I needed to work on myself more instead of continually asking Him to intervene.

The reason why I don't get possessed, my eyes don't turn black and I don't spit out Latin...is because I am not afraid of anything...I have absolutely no fear...there's nothing any demon can use against me...and I guess I've also got my 'boundaries' in tact and my Higher Self and Lord Shiva reinforces them...besides, I'm not a Christian and don't know any Christian things, so all those demonic experiences, I don't get.

In line with others I believe the best and quickest route is a group setting supported by meditation and spiritual studies in your own time. Meditative practices, ritual, intention and spiritual laws need to be explored through book learning, practices you resonate with need to be set in motion alongside. This is the first step in my experience as we are forced to define our spiritual belief system and faith which ensure protection else we're stuck at the starting block.

Faith and trust are slow to build because they are based on first hand experiences but we must ask for evidence and be open to signs and coincidences at first because this is the only way they can get information through due to the fact we lack the ability to perceive psychic information but it develops as we grow spiritually, it's a by product of exploration and practice.

First we learn to perceive subtle intuitive info, then psychic info usually during meditative or similar practices, tarot is also very helpful for developing self awareness and psychic ability. It's about getting your boundaries and barriers out of the way as well as limitations through faulty perceptions in order for spirit to get through but in order to achieve this we need to work on becoming aware of them, also we must practice to develop psychic perception as we can't just read about it.

Psychic ability is the forerunner to mediumistic development where we no longer tap into the universal pool of knowledge but rather a person in spirit or higher entity that is not bound into the life-death-rebirth cycle and we learn this through mental mediumship where we are present, aware and simply relaying info via clairaudience/clairvoyance/clairsentience.

I don't practice trance channeling as yet so can't speak from experience but it's classed as physical mediumship where we consent to be an unconscious channel rather like a puppet, takes skill, great trust and practice to attain this level where we become unconscious of proceedings but the info coming through may not be any more accurate than other forms of mediumship.

The only experience I have of this is falling into deep unconscious trance during meditation but I've never consciously given consent to act as a physical medium so whilst I may be able to reach the required state it is as yet not under my conscious control and happens sporadically so a long way to go there.

It is highly unlikely if not impossible to reach the higher ranks without the understanding you need to keep yourself safe, there are some dangers though most are highly exaggerated to my limited perceptions but none the less I strongly advise you to focus your energy on channeling a being of pure light by specification of such, it's as simple as that, what you perceive that to be may be any number of things such as an Angel, a Saint, personal lifetime guide, a loved one in spirit or simply the truth. Once you have evidence of what you are communicating with you will be guided first hand and anyone/thing you channel will be linked in via your guide who stabilises the connection and keeps us safe once we learn the skill.

We would not develop the ability to channel without an insight into the higher planes and the laws that govern it, same as we would not be given the key to tarot unless we gain self awareness and self control to point that we are able to override the ego self for without this ability we could do a lot of damage and for this reason we are held back according to spiritual growth which is the crux of where and how to start.

Have fun, go with what you're drawn to and fascinated with explore automatic writing, experience the states a flotation tank can induce (sensory deprivation) an amazing ideal for channelling, try trance dancing if you're a physical person etc and the list goes on. Work too on integrity as this single factor holds many people back, best of luck with it.

That's a powerful and scary story SaturinePluto, thank you for sharing it with the OP. The black eyes are very interesting, I'll think more on that. I've seen peoples eyes darken when they are sick, under long term drinking or drug use and other very low frequency occurrences, just as I've seen peoples eyes get very bright and light during spiritual highs and epiphanies. There maybe some sort of connection here.


Some people are more open, its easier for entities to move in and out. I notice if I meditate too long, like say a one day retreat, I become very open as well, being in high frequency only high frequency beings could move in, that being said my human still finds that very alarming. For the moment at least, this body is my earthly housing and as such I'm protective of it.

Twice now I've seen actual possessions, an entity come in and take over the body for a long time as if it were its own. The one young lady I don't know whatever became of her, the entity threw her through a 2nd story plate glass window and her tribe came and got her from the hospital, she never returned to school. That was decades ago.

The other one, more recent took over a young adult male who was learning how to channel, it's had him for nearly a year now. While its not destructive like the first entity, it has made a mess of his personal life and friends have fled, his mother is beyond scared and he can't hold a job down.
I'm told at some point he will choose to exert his control and take back over his body and kick it out himself. Until then there's nothing anyone can do - this is part of his learning as he has the option this life to become a great Channel - but first he must learn to recognize entities intentions as they approach to work through him and he must learn to stay in some control of his vessel and not just give it away to anything which tries to come in.
It's a hard learning. :(

Hello.

Yes I have seen what you mean by the darkening of eyes in connection with excessive addiction issues and drug use. I could almost explain it as seeing much underlying anger within the eyes, as if the addiction itself, or rather its presence, can be seen there.

Where you say some are more open, it made me think back to a couple experiences. One was I was attempting to meditate to figure a possible past life. I received imagery during the state. When I was through with the meditation I went to exit the bedroom to refill my glass, and came to look in the full body mirror on the closet door to see that my eyes were a solid black...

First thought was this again? Why does this keep happening to me? I was feeling frustrated because this type of thing keeps happening to me and I don't understand why?

Then I thought well what was I just doing before this? Then it dawned on me that I had just in fact been visualizing something, and I thought wait a moment, is it possible this happens when one is channeling? I mean is this what channeling is supposed to be? I want no part of it...


Then one night during the fall in September of this year I believe. I had a type of experience where I considered I could be channeling again. I went out of doors during the night for some quiet. I went over to the patio table and seating and sat down and lit a cigarette. I sat in contemplation and worked on quieting of mind as I often do outside. Then I coughed but it didn't sound quite like myself but rather what I refer to as a voice of the dead. This raspy cough with an echo I can not produce with my own voice. I was taken aback for a moment. I thought of immediately the feelings I was having at the time. Felt a spirit of the dead feeling, but wondered if I were being tricked. I thought again on whether or not I was channeling.

I Went to go indoors and looked into the glass window of the door expecting my eyes to be black, but they were normal. So I thought again, am I being tricked? Shrugged and went inside.

I have been wondering for quite some time now if those experiences were examples of channeling.

I would say no, they don't sound like it. But I must admit, you sound very open, as in it's easy for Beings to match to your frequency and 'hang out in you' for a bit.
I'm sure you've heard all the lectures about Grounding and doing Psychic Shielding and Cutting Cords. The basics of the basics for self protection, so I won't give that speel again. But it might be a really good idea to start practicing all three daily.
Being an open vessel is cool if you can control what's wandering through your body vehicle.
Control being the prime word here. You let in who you want into your house, not just anybody wandering by on the street. It's those locks on the doors which start giving us control of wandering strangers getting entry.

You write, on your site "Embrace your higher self with a hug". How does your (John's) higher self look? Do you know his name?

Hi,

My higher self's name is my real name. It can not be translated to a linear word. It represents a combination of sound and light which is my eternal identity.

The higher self is both genders, which we are also btw. We have had life expresions as a him and a her. The body remembers these lives as each one which is why it is always self destructive to demean any gender.

In my case I do not visualize the higher self's energy, I experiece it. I embrace that energies outlook on life and evolve my human perpespectives.

My effort is to give a hug to all that I am, my dark and light side equally.

John

I actually found out I am a trance channeler medium on my own. I was just channeling Spirit and the words came out and I was like...woa. I am a what now? And it made sense after Spirit "left", My body felt different. i felt more in control again more like....less White Light was in me, I think I was channeling Reiki and it was talking through me. Yes, I channel Reiki. The very best idea to ever do any kind of reading or channeling work or even just intuitive work, is to listen through your third eye.

Also, do this RIGHT after doing this exercise:

Imagine a falling rainbow beam coming down from Heaven's surrounding you and your guest. And then wrap a clear color around the rainbow. And then sprinkle sparkles around it so taht the spirits can be channeled through! And then wrap a layer of God's White Light and Protection around the whole beam/cylinder you just made from Heavens to Earth and beneath you. And voila! You are perfect to read forever once you make it permanent with your wings! :) Ask your angels or main spirit guides to make them permanent. :) It works!

Why are people so afraid of this? It id not possession. It is a cooperative choice to translate what comes through. You can cut them off to my understanding at will.

I agree with John
 

I agree with John:

“Hello,

I would encourage some thing more powerful and enjoyable than trance channeling. Foster a love bond with your higher self.

Know one knows more about anything than your higher self. If you can discover that the rest is easy.

John”

Your higher self will be able to guide you in such a way that will make you most comfortable and will teach you in a way that is best for your unique natural abilities. We all have abilities, your highest self is like your map and compass to help you navigate through your natural abilities to help you understand how to use your abilities in a safe way.

How to meet your “Highest Self”
 

Your highest self is your most power spiritual guide and is all knowing and all seeing, and your guide really wants to meet you and have you get to know each other. Your highest self will present itself to you in a way that makes you most comfortable.

There are many ways to meet your Highest self, one of the best ways is to first ask your spirit guide to help you meet him/her. Ask for their help, ask them to guide you, start communicating with your guide on a regular basis, tell him/her about your day, how you feel, tell them about your hopes and dreams.

Ask them to show you how to recognize them and how to work with them. Meeting your spirit guide and getting to know them is like you would a new friend at work or school, it takes time to build the relationship, but know it is a friendship that is based on trust, love, and respect.

Your spirit guide will only show you love, compassion and kindness, they will never be negative towards you, they will always try to lift you up spiritually, emotionally, they will always want to encourage you and help you on your spiritual journey.

think of it as if you were in a dream and you were trying to accomplish it in your dream.

i went to a work shop yesterday to work with auras and ribbon reading as thats what i wanted to learn.

i was asked to sit with 2 people so others could read and see our auras i was in the middle.

I was told i was really grounded and i went in to trance where i could hear everything around me i was told i had a pyramid above my head and a glowing aura and flashes of lights and my guides hand on my shoulder.

I din't know i did trance i was asked if i did and iv'e been asked to join a closed circle to learn how use trance safely in a group and learning the tools for protection

Are you aware that channeling and transchanneling are very different? Transchannel means you will not be aware of what you are hearing or saying. You will be "taken over" by a spiritual entity. I would start by doing "channeling" where you open yourself to contact by one in spirit. These aren't party tricks - it is a serious involvement. You need to learn through the guidance of one who knows, how to make an initial contact with spirit. You need to have established yes and no signals, body signals to act as confirmation to what you are hearing. I suggest you contact one who helps people open up to spirit and follow their guidance. Take it slow, keep it error-free. Remember there are high and low levels in spirit. You only want the highest level.