A lot of good things said in that chapter...

Ramana Maharshi is someone I look to for inspiration, a great man. Of all people claiming to be enlightened I feel Ramana is one of only a few who truly are. His book 'Who am I' is worth looking up. I have his app on my phone to inspire me. :smile:

Yes Ramana Maharshi was a great stepping stone towards my own
enlightenment, or the realization of being that all along.:smile:

This is what I just wrote (in relation to another, quite different, 'set' of ideas) that I am writing a 'critical' treatise on. Am posting the passage here thinking it might pertain to the ideas (pertaining to 'enlightenment', one's real 'nature', etc.) being discussed here and possibly be of thought-stimulus value to some readers at least:

One of the ironies pertaining to truth -- any stated ‘truth’ just being a word-symbol composed description (i.e. a script!) pertaining to an aspect of the totality of Being -- is that even very comprehensive idea-encompassing statements can and often do lead people who are emotionally biased by selfishness astray without their knowing it, with them thinking all the while that whatever they decide [in terms of the relational or non-relational choices they make] on such basis must be ‘correct’ because they believe they are onto something which they regard as being completely ‘true’ by definition.

Possibly, David, but the book is a conversation between a questioner and Nis, a transcript if you will. The idea is to have a read of the provided PDF, and perhaps word search anything one is particularly interested in, and see if it is pertinent to oneself, not as something learned and known, but as something true to life. It may be the case that it has no pertinence to some individuals, so just disregard it in that case. However, I dare say that any spiritually inclined reader will be struck by the narrative in some way, but each in their own way.

I like that Gem.:smile:

Absolutely, Gem! And that is 'true' :smile: of any 'treatise' -- whether presented as 'conversation', like The Bhagavad Gita or Socrates' 'Dialgogues', or as a 'drama' or 'history', like The Old and New Testaments, or as a straight out commentary, like The Tao do Ching, The Dhammapada, etc., etc. etc.) purporting to share/reveal 'the truth' about the 'reality' of one's Being, as is what I said, I think.

My statement pertains to whatever (i.e. any 'truth') that a 'reader' may be particularly interested in exploring because he/she finds is particularly pertinent to her/him ... again, so I think. :smile:

My 'caution' was aimed at provoking 'readers to 'watch out' for the fact that biases stemming from their own 'selfishness' may lead them 'astray' if and as they think that 'the truth' that they 'find' in any 'script' is "completely" true word-art representation of 'the truth' about anything. REALITY is much too GRANDly multidimensional to be 'encapsulated' by any 'script' (or aspect thereof) which one finds particularly pertinent in relation to one's 'own' or any 'other' self).

Honestly, David, the overuse of underlines, bold font and other emphases make it much more difficult for me to read what you write. It 'sounds like' the emphasised words are yelled, and the din of these 'loud' words makes it hard to understand what you're saying.

Thank you for your honestly, Gem. Perceptions of excess and/or insifficiency are in the 'I' of the 'beholder', IMO. My emphases aren't meant to be so 'loud' (as a matter of fact written words make no 'sound' at all! LOL) as to make it 'hard' for anyone to 'hear' and 'understand' them. Either look to overcome your "sounds like" reactions in said regards, or just ignore my posts. Bro.

Only those who are attuned or really want to to be attuned to/with my spirit can/will hear 'my voice'.

Further comments informing of this are quite unnecessary. My 'words' are not intended to be 'heard' by everyone.

Having just spent many days reading the Bhagavad Gita followed by reading Jack Hawley's concise version of the same it was a surprise when I picked up an edition of Ralph Waldo Emerson, opened it and saw

Brahma

If the red slayer think he slays...

go to: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIy-CS3u4uU

Wonderful how it fits in this thread,