May 21st 2011

[7he4uthor]

Judgment Day May 21st 2011


But to set a date??? No way. Sorry. Jesus said "No man knows the hour or day." It's that simple.

yes things are simple when one text is taken literally and out of context with the rest of the book, if any of you had taken the time to visit the website you would see that other texts indicate that gods people will not be taken by surprise, Noah wasn’t taken by surprise [gods ppl] but the wicked were [as it was in Noah’s day so shall be the day of the lord]


1 Thessalonians 5

1But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you.
2For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.
3For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.
4But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.


Notice that those who love god WILL NOT be caught off-guard by $atan the thief.

1am surprised to read here that virtually no-one has read from the site that explains the formula given, anyone who had taken the 15 minutes to read it could not take one text and say ''its that simple''

Devoting ones life to god is not a simple thing, it would take approximately 400 years to read all the texts in the Vatican vaults at a 40 hour work week.

The books edited from the bible [Enoch etc] act as incredible context to set time lines for many bible events, this was removed by Rome.

The 3rd Fatima prophesy [from my source] states that the Vatican will fall under $atan$ power, this is the prophesy which the church said the public wasn’t ready for.

Is the public ready to know the date was also held back ?
I read the site and though the base theme of the formula didn’t make sense, the amount of cross-referencing commanded respect and drew my heart.
This kind of devotion is not as simple as reciting one text.




Hi Parables,

I find the dating of the flood to be approximately 1500 AC (after creation). This would make it only 4500 +/- years ago. This also confirms with the Hebrew calendar.




As a student of science and archeology 1 have seen the debunking of all known dating systems [carbon/layering/polarization/etc]

[Google; carbon dating and other dating methods]

look into it yourself ... all dating methods have many flaws which make placing dinosaurs, floods, volcanoes, ice ages, asteroid impacts, artifacts, etc virtually impossible. 0nly in cases where tablets, scripts or texts concur with the given dating method[s] can there be any degree of certainty.






A lot are based off the Mayan calendar which I believe mysteriously ends at 2012.

It doesn’t end mysteriously it is a completion of the 26,000 year star-precession cycle, something science and astronomy have been aware of since time immemorial, and which is marked by numerous pyramid and monument sites globally.

… and camping's date has nothing to do with the Maya calendar, which isn’t Maya, as the Mormons said Christ came to America from Jerusalem, the Olmec had it first according to the records 1ve studied.




Sorry. Jesus said "No man knows the hour or day." It's that simple

Are those who are members in the body of Christ [the church] MEN ?
or
are they pieces of Christ ?



If you like … see post “Rebuilding the Temple - Anti-Christ”
relating to ‘signs’ of this article.
[B]

[ROM]

I'm a bit sceptical when it comes to fixed dates. I don't think anything can be precisely predicted since humanity has free-will, so anything can change.

The way the church is going, with all the lies and deceit, it's not a surprise it will collapse.

[7he4uthor]

I'm a bit sceptical when it comes to fixed dates. I don't think anything can be precisely predicted since humanity has free-will, so anything can change.

The way the church is going, with all the lies and deceit, it's not a surprise it will collapse.

perhaps why christ said 'repent' to avoid a collapse of the church which is the glue that holds social structure together and withou which chaos anarchy and demise would result.Here are ten guidelines from the late, great mythologist and cultural anthropologist Joseph Campbell about how to draw meaning from mythology and religion:



Read myths with the eyes of wonder:
the myths transparent to their universal meaning,
their meaning transparent to its mysterious source.
Read myths in the present tense: Eternity is now.
Read myths in the first person plural: the Gods and Goddesses
of ancient mythology still live within you.
Any myth worth its salt exerts a powerful magnetism. Notice
the images and stories that you are drawn to and repelled by.
Investigate the field of associated images and stories.
Look for patterns; don't get lost in the details.
What is needed is not more specialized scholarship,
but more interdisciplinary vision. Make connections;
break old patterns of parochial thought.
Resacralize the secular:
even a dollar bill reveals the imprint of Eternity.
If God is everywhere, then myths can be generated anywhere,
anytime, by anything. Don't let your Romantic aversion to
science blind you to the Buddha in the computer chip.
Know your tribe! Myths never arise in a vacuum;
they are the connective tissue of the social body
which enjoys synergistic relations with
dreams (private myths) and rituals (the enactment of myth).
Expand your horizons! Any mythology worth remembering
will be global in scope. The earth is our home
and humankind is our family.
Read between the lines! Literalism kills;
Imagination quickens.

[7he4uthor]

I don't get this May 21, 2011 date. It's not on a feast day, not on Pentecost. The moon is waning gibbous about 4 days past full.
If anyone noticed, the Lord always fulfilled prophecy in accordance with the calendar and the Spring/Pentecost feast days were fulfilled at Christ's first coming at the time of the feast. There is nothing historically that fulfilled the autumn feasts yet, but God put them there for a purpose to denote His plan and prophecy (not to watch Israel party 3 times a year).
The feasts are: Passover, Unleavened Bread, Firstfruits, Pentecost, Trumpets Atonement and Taberbacles. (There are several others the Jews added to commemorate things such as Purim and Hanukkah but the feasts designating God's plan are in Levitcus 23.) May 21, 2011 is not one of them.
We ought to live as though Jesus is returning this very moment.
But won't it be wonderful when He does?
Harold Camping
http://www.lamblion.us/2011/03/harold-camping-emergence-of-new-cult.html

[Animus27]

I'll see y'all on May 22nd 2011 :D

[Time]

If no man shall know the date, then why did god tell noah?

The dating of the floods are around 10 000 - 8 000 years ago, which is said by most theologists, as well as religios antrhropologists. It co incides with global flooding after the ice age.

The thing about carbon dating etc, is that they dont give fixed dates. ITs not like they say " oh this rock was made april 7th 5178 BC. They always give a lee way of a few hundred toa few thousand ( depending on the time frame in question). And as well, most of these dates are backed up by core samples and geolody of rock layers. We may lie, but the earth doesnt.

I do agree about the "mysterious" ending of the maya calender. TIs the end of the long count, which was a big deal to them, which usualy signified change. But all it really means, is that the calender starts all over again. No different from us going from december to january, except that the end of the long count calander is a few thousand years long..... something to celebrate i think.

There wre many "native" tribes who had a somewhat similar calender system. The native canadians/olmec/hopi/mayan etc all had similar calenders ( I cant say the same but moer similarities then not)

Im not sure exactly where your going auther. You seem to be trying to discredit dates, and what not, yet you still give evidence for some??

[HBuck72]

Here is my problem with the Judgment day and doomsday date prophecies... they never come true, and when they don't you never get a "my bad I was wrong". Instead a new date is set and the sheeple (sheep+people) who believe in this nonsense start awaiting the new calendar date.... and the cycle just keeps repeating itself over, and over, and over again.

People have been giving prophecies regarding the end of the world for millenia, and gues what, they are always wrong.

The earth keeps spinning around the sun.

[Scibat]

Judgment Day May 21st 2011

That's my Birthday. :occasion1::occasion15::occasion13:

I don't know if anything will happen, but odd coincidence if it does.

[Triner]

Here is my problem with the Judgment day and doomsday date prophecies... they never come true, and when they don't you never get a "my bad I was wrong". Instead a new date is set and the sheeple (sheep+people) who believe in this nonsense start awaiting the new calendar date.... and the cycle just keeps repeating itself over, and over, and over again.

People have been giving prophecies regarding the end of the world for millenia, and gues what, they are always wrong.

The earth keeps spinning around the sun.

Yup, agree completely. And if you live your life in the now, making decisions based on Love. Then no matter when it happens, it'll be OK.

[Scibat]

I am curious, is there a place where I can see the math for this in a simplified format? I am not a biblical scholar or mathematician, but being that it does fall on my birthday I am genuinely curious. :color:

[Scibat]

I am curious, is there a place where I can see the math for this in a simplified format? I am not a biblical scholar or mathematician, but being that it does fall on my birthday I am genuinely curious. :color:

I take the silence as a no? :color:

Too bad I really was genuinely curious about this and how the date was derived, oh well.

[Neville]

Hello Scibat, There is a bit of information here that I was able to find.

http://www.ebiblefellowship.com/may21/ (http://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/redir.php?link=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebiblefellowship.c om%2Fmay21%2F)

It seems to be an evangelical premise. There is an association of thought between the second coming and the rapture. It's all a bit Da Vinci code to me though.

That said some folks seem very serious about this;

[Scibat]

Hello Scibat, There is a bit of information here that I was able to find.

http://www.ebiblefellowship.com/may21/ (http://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/redir.php?link=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.spiritualforums.co m%2Fvb%2Fredir.php%3Flink%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww .ebiblefellowship.com%252Fmay21%252F)

It seems to be an evangelical premise. There is an association of thought between the second coming and the rapture. It's all a bit Da Vinci code to me though.

That said some folks seem very serious about this;

Thanks for the info, and yes there are billboards up about it all around where I live so people are taking it quite seriously.

[Miss Hepburn]

Hey, I just drove past a bench that said May 21 - Judgment Day.

I guess, I'm outta the loop. Then I see this thread.

[Neville]

There is a wealth of information on the internet regarding May 21 2011. Some of it positive in the respect that some believe Jesus will return , There is however a quiet significant belief that the end times will begin in earnest which to me is a little alarmist.

It's the exclusivity that troubles me. The supposed premise that the multitudes of peace loving good living non Christians who have not accepted Jesus into their lives are in for a rough ride of it.

This is not only Christianity, Some Elements of other religious dogma carry this "It's my way or the Highway to hell" ultimatum about it.

Anyway, after such digressionI will watch to see what happens on 21 May. I do appreciate any skepticism also as there seems to have been a few dates that have passed that were also thought to be the end times.

[Simon Karlos]

Hey, I just drove past a bench that said May 21 - Judgment Day.

I guess, I'm outta the loop. Then I see this thread.

That was my flock who put that message there for you to see! May 21, 2011 is the set date that me and my people will proclaim to the world via YouTube that Miss Hepburn is the Great Goddess, and that together, she and I shall RULE over this universe in a Golden Age of peace, love, harmony and re-runs of "The X-Files."

[Miss Hepburn]

That was my flock who put that message there for you to see! May 21, 2011 is the set date that me and my people will proclaim to the world via YouTube that Miss Hepburn is the Great Goddess, and that together, she and I shall RULE over this universe in a Golden Age of peace, love, harmony and re-runs of "The X-Files."
Is this the same person who started the Chuck Norris thread ---ah-huh,
I thought so.
Because it wouldn't be re-runs of X-Files...it would be Twin Peaks in my Universe.

[grue21]

TBH no none knows. Jesus said that would be able to tell roughly by the signs of that time, like the changings of the seasons. However if Jesus and the Holy Spirit dont know the exact date, im sure none of us will know. and doesnmt the Temple have to have been rebuilt for 6 yrs first anyway???

the best way to be sure on all accounts is to be ready for it every day, that way we wont get cought sleeping.

I tried to force God to tell me when it was once!!!! BIG MISTAKE! never felt God angry before but i did then!

[Bluegreen]

Earth changes predicted by Edgar Cayce:

South Pacific: The changes will begin to be apparent "when there is the first breaking up of some conditions in the South Sea...and those as apparent in the sinking or rising of that which is almost opposite it, or in the Mediterranean, and the Aetna (Etna) area.

The Atlantic: "Lands will appear in the Atlantic as well as in the Pacific."

The Pacific: "Lands will appear..." "The greater portion of Japan must go into the sea."

Europe: "The upper porton of Europe will be changed as in the twinkling of an eye..." "Even many of the battlefields of the present [1941] will be ocean, will be the seas, the bays, the lands over which the new order will carry on their trade as one with another."

America: "All over the country many physical changes of a minor or greater degree. The greater change will be in the North Atlantic Seaboard. Watch New York, Connecticut and the like.
"Many portions of the East Coast will be disturbed, as well as many portions of the West Coast, as well as the central portion of the United States.
"Los Angeles, San Francisco, most all of these will be among those that will be destroyed before New York, even.
"Portions of the now east coast of New York, or New York City itself, will in the main disappear... the southern portions of Carolina, Georgia, these will disappear.
The waters of the Great Lake will empty into the Gulf of Mexico.
"If there are greater activities in Vesuvius or Pelee, then the southern coast of California--and the areas between Salt Lake and the southern portions of Nevada--may expect, within three months following same, an inundation caused by the earthquakes.
"Safety lands will be the area around Norfolk, Virginia Beach, parts of Ohiop, Indiana, and Illinois and much of the southern portion of Canada and the eastern portion of Canada."

Arctic and antarctic: "There will be upheavals in the Arctic and Antarctic that will make for the eruptions of volcanoes in the Torrid areas, and there will be the shifting then of the poles--so that where there have been those of a frigid or semi-tropical will become the more tropical, and moss and fern will grow..."

I will leave off the rest of the predictions.

The predictions may take place--many should already have taken place according to Cayce's time line--or be averted. It all depends on men's treatment of his fellow men. I believe that man's attitude has changed for the better. (The best predictions are those that do not materialize.)

The shifting of the poles is apparently a cyclic occurence, the last shift having occurred some 15,000 years ago.
I do not know whether this is true but it is true that in cold climates vegetation is found in earth layers that only grows in tropicAL climates.

Cayce also predicted that the earth changes will be followed by a thousand years of peace.

[AngelBreeze]

I am curious, is there a place where I can see the math for this in a simplified format? I am not a biblical scholar or mathematician, but being that it does fall on my birthday I am genuinely curious. :color:

Warm greetings, Scibat!

You ask about seeing the math and explanation for this date. I did some research on it and have found the following website, FYI. I know this has been presented already but it seems to be the Prime site listed for this information thus, I thought it would bear repeating.

http://www.ebiblefellowship.com/may21/index.html

Deus tecum, (\o/) AngelBreeze (\o/)

"For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an anti-Christ." -- II JOHN 1:7 (KJV)

"Jesus saith unto him, I Am the Way, the Truth, and the Life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by Me." -- JOHN 14:6 (KJV)

[Internal Queries]

oh boy! i guess i can max out my credit cards having a grand ol' time before THE END.

**does the Happy Heathen dance** cha cha cha!

[Shabda]

Is this the same person who started the Chuck Norris thread ---ah-huh,
I thought so.
Because it wouldn't be re-runs of X-Files...it would be Twin Peaks in my Universe.
you have good taste~! Laura Palmer would be proud~!! id be watching those too...

[Scibat]

In relation to this thread, I found this an interesting read:

http://www.religioustolerance.org/end_wrl2.htm :color:

[7he4uthor]

The October 28th end date of the Maya/Aztec/Olmec Calendar is 1 week after Camping's date of Oct. 21st,
... and 2 days after the new moon

The harvest moon is fall the time of death
The May Day moon is one of life
Like Beltane and Samhain witch do have significance in the lunar Jewish calendar as well.

Life = rapture = spring
Death = extermination = fall

http://2012forum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=23098&start=75

[AngelBreeze]

A REMINDER:

T Minus Two Days or Possibly One Day in some parts of the world and counting!

Let's just see what happens here since no one but God knows the exact date and time for the End of the World!

Deus tecum, (\o/) AngelBreeze (\o/)

"For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an anti-Christ." -- II JOHN 1:7 (KJV)

"Jesus saith unto him, I Am the Way, the Truth, and the Life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by Me." -- JOHN 14:6 (KJV)

[peteyzen]

Im helping my wife move stables on the 21st, its a dirty smelly horrible tireing job... do you think the end will come early so I can save myself the effort, cause Im gonna be miffed if I do all that work and the world ends in the early evening!