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28-10-2020, 11:40 PM
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You have to take the risk … put in the effort … plug it in … ( yes … quietly … if you’re smart ) … and see how it fits … see how it works … see why it might be a vital part of the puzzle. You have to act … to carry the risk forward and explore the unknown … slowly … baby-steps … before you will know.
But mind will happily and often violently tell you … NO … don’t go there … don’t try that … don’t be stupid. And for most … for the most part … they will listen to mind. That does NOT make them wrong. Most will listen … when mind whispers … “No … *this* is the way … stay with the familiar.”
And more about this part --- living it, risking it, ...hm
Thanks I liked this last post especially, zorkchop 
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28-10-2020, 11:57 PM
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This … is key.
And it’s an astounding realization.
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And so … you move on … individually … and here is one of the great revelations that you discover …
Your interaction and relationship is with LIFE now … and not people.
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Wow - read every word esp from, "This is key"---this is great stuff, my friend.
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Prepare yourself for the coming astral journey of death by daily riding in the balloon of God-perception.
Through delusion you are perceiving yourself as a bundle of flesh and bones, which at best is a nest of troubles.
Meditate unceasingly, that you may quickly behold yourself as the Infinite Essence, free from every form of misery. ~Paramahansa's Guru's Guru.
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30-10-2020, 02:12 PM
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Considerations Twelve
Checkpoints, Safeguards, and Spiritual Law
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So far
everything I have put here is certainly a mental understanding of the much bigger picture of LIFE. ( LIFE is the Whole of Existence
especially by way of Divine Spirit. ) I have lightly tried to offer information on the psychic bodies and the role they play. There is obviously *much* more that could be written on any or all of them. Along the way
if we keep this going
I will probably do that to some extent or another
but now I want to step a bit farther out.
No one steps onto and into the Soul Plane by mistake. Now
as a precaution
a mental precaution as to what people might say to that last statement
I will add this
Out of the countless Centillion souls in existence
(centillion = 10 to the 300th power
I had to look it up
just take it as a LOT of souls in existence)
if out of all of those
just *one* manages to wander into that level so to speak
that means that it *is* possible to step there by mistake
so you cant say No one
Yeah
I understand that
and if you want to be Number Two
be my guest.
According to Spiritual Law
these laws being quite different from the psychic energies of reincarnation, karma, intimidation, persuasion, power and control over, polarity, vibrations, attitudes, etc.
only a viable and true Spiritual Master may take another to the point where that individual may become established on the Soul Plane. This is by Spiritual Law. (Again
dont kill the messenger.)
A true and viable Spiritual Master is one who has been to the end so to speak
has stood in the presence of the Core Creator God
knowingly and validated by the Master that took that individual into the Presence of God ITSELF
and has returned to finish out His present, current physical lifetime. Said individual must have a physical lifetime ongoing in order to this being possible in the first place. A true Spiritual Master is also able to work with advanced students on both the outer and the inner
and by the latter is meant real. instructive learning and not just a dream or two.
Many claim mastership
few are valid. Many claim mastership at the level they are studying. That
is another matter altogether.
There is more to being a true Spiritual Master than as stated above. This is just a handy, simplified yardstick.
Being a valid Spiritual Master is much more than just a belief or an emotion. Claims by the various religions that the head of their religion is a true spiritual master can easily be a claim for status only. Learning that
however
is also part of the Path.
Some things to consider about walking the Soul Plane
All these eons of your own personal existence
you have had the luxury and the use of the psychic bodies of the physical, astral, causal, mental, and etheric encasings. Now you step into the Soul Plane
and the physical body is not there, the emotions are gone, the mind is not directing and controlling your thoughts
( and yes
Soul can utilize inner words to varying degrees )
and so
what now?
It takes a bit getting use to
but it is more easily assimilated than the entire lower world set-up. Your entire approach is different
but you are working as Soul within Its natural realm via Its natural abilities. As these are recognized
they are more readily and easily learned.
If you are running a physical body here
you cannot retreat and live totally within the Soul Plane at the same time. You are of no use to LIFE if you retreat to a level
advanced tho that may be
where you are unavailable to be of service on the physical and lower levels.
Attaining and living from the Soul Plane is somewhat like a difference between the waking and the dream state
you are in one state of consciousness or the other
leaning a bit more towards the upper spiritual worlds but not dismissing the lower psychic worlds. You learn to live within both
keeping the lower world facets in check and knowing how to work with and utilize them
yet staying well aware of the workings of yourself as Soul in the worlds of Soul.
There are checkpoints to pass and complete before are even taken there. As with all things in LIFE
you earn your way there.
The struggle is when one returns here to continue their daily life
and mind will set about trying to regain control
trying to design workarounds to what you have learned in the Soul Plane and are trying to maintain while back in the psychic realms
trying to pull you back into the mental approach much as any individual who has been addicted
such as to alcohol
once that is given up
people and situations seem to come out of the woodwork to try and get you to re-join the old lifestyle.
Mind
desperately
wishes to regain control. Mind never totally gives up this battle. As obnoxious as that may be
consider the virtues
the strength, courage, tolerance, stamina, perseverance, etc.
that one continues to learn from and during this wrestling match.
Mind constantly watches the patterns of behavior as a cat watches a mouse. One false move
and mind can make back control. Not only does this show the power of mind
but again
strengthens Soul.
If the individual loses that battle and begins to rely more on the mental approach to life
they can lose their ability to enter and maintain their presence on the Soul Plane. That is *not* an uncommon situation. Your vibration lowers to tune in more to the mental areas and you find you are unable to attain the lofty heights you were previously shown and were living in. It is *not* just a matter of thinking you are in one place or another
your rate of vibration is very different between the various states of consciousness. Very different indeed.
Can you get back again
if you falter and lose ground?
Certainly
with focus, effort, and discipline.
Much is in place to safeguard those that are living within this realm
and above. As a physical world example
if you have a gathering of very peaceful and compatible people and then someone enters with a gun and starts brandishing it about
that can obviously cause quite a stir and possibly lead to imbalance within the entire group. I am not suggesting that there is a police force in the spiritual realms to keep an eye on everyone
but there are safeguards. Not only must you earn your right to enter
but you must continuously earn your right to stay.
Just maintaining the distinctive boundary by personal vibration alone is often enough of a safeguard. Souls are not there
that do not belong
or who have not learned and maintained their ability to be there.
Period.
This may not set well with many in these lower worlds. The lessons in the lower worlds here
are seemingly endless.
More later.
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30-10-2020, 05:53 PM
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thanks very much zorkchop.
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30-10-2020, 11:45 PM
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Really great stuff Z.
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31-10-2020, 04:54 PM
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Replies and Clarifications Five
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The next series of posts will be dealing with mental issues. Im going to digress a bit back into the mental realms and offer a few approaches that have served me well over the decades. These are not for the faint-of-heart
and many can well work into a lifestyle technique
ones that you can develop and use on a daily basis. If practiced
these can make great changes in your perspective and / or state of consciousness.
These can be tested out to be possible mental tools
to slowly but surely gain some control. Hopefully these will at least begin to answer some of the inquiries others have had. Mental control will always be an on-going issue. I sincerely wish to give those of you who are interested a starting point
or at least some direction
something that has worked for me
and for others.
I do not know specifically how many of these there will be. I had three in mind
then four
then six
and now theres more.
In a way
I am simply writing that which I personally would have *loved* to have found
decades ago literally
and it has taken me that long to refine all of this to get it even remotely working the way I wish it to.
These will be quite handy for those of you that want something practical to work with. I certainly cannot be complete
not even close
but I can offer a few starting points. These are not instant miracles or magic wands. There are none. With practice
these will give you a chance to build anew to the degree you have the perseverance to do so.
I will put the first of this series in later this afternoon.
( janielee
take note. Youre gonna like this series. )
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31-10-2020, 11:04 PM
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Considerations Thirteen
Im offended ! !
It takes little observation to notice how the use of the words Im offended ! has taken over the world. Its as if
its someone elses fault that they are themselves offended. And how handy it is that someone else has to change *their* behavior so the offended person doesnt even have to consider the validity of their offense. Its *your* fault that *I* react the way I do.
Um
no.
Its not up to someone else to cater to your personal preferences. Thats like telling LIFE
Do everything the way *I* want it done. LIFE
you must do things *my* way.
Doesnt work
but its a great political and social attack. Obviously
it works
to control others and give power over others.
So if you want to get a better understanding of just where you are in your perceptions of the world
use the journal
and keep track of what offends you. Do this quietly
as a personal ongoing observation. Use your journal
because our memories are not geared anymore to keeping track over a long time period
and many of the things that slightly offend you may not be apparent until you notice that the particular offense seems to crop up with great regulatory. You then might want to consider it as of value to perhaps do something about it.
You might want to cut yourself some slack and ease up on the rather small things that offend you. Maybe you dont like a particular color of clothing or the foods offered in a restaurant. Try to find the ones that really set you off
not in a frenzy of anger
but really stirs your emotions. This is an individual task so youll have to cater to yourself and your own design of this practice.
On old saying
and this is really the basis of this entire technique
The quickest way back to God is to take care of your daily affairs.
It is through our ongoing interactions that show us our lack of temperament, or lack of stamina or patience or forgiveness or whatever. I am not the one who likes to even discuss
lack
but one has to become aware of them before s/he can do anything about them.
Therefore
do all this as objectively, as quietly, as kindly as possible. This is your own ongoing endeavor. It need not be told to anyone. Anger and frustration blinds. This is why its nice to just jot down a note or two, get it into your journal
and then see if there is another joining puzzle piece that will come along later and begin to form a pattern. Stay objective. Pretend its someone else thats doing it to help keep your personal involvement at a tolerable but do not release responsibility for it to someone else or to some other factor. It might be embarrassing
but no one else needs to know as you wrestle with these issues inwardly.
You can also use your journal to write out responses to these issues. It often helps to get it out of your system. To do that in a journal is perfect.
If you do this on a computer or your phone
and its all recorded stuff
make sure its locked
or highly safeguarded.
After you get your journal going a bit and you begin to make entries such as these
you begin to get a real glimpse of issues you need to somewhat resolve to grow in overall perspective.
Try to be rather categorical in your assessments. If the same issue offends you in a number of ways
it might be that specific issue that offends
or
it might be that specific issue that brings out a number of offensive viewpoints
and you should try to be aware of them as separate issues or as a grouping
or maybe both. That is for you to determine.
Now
are you going to want to try and spot every little thing that raises your blood pressure by one point? Maybe
if you want to drive yourself crazy. Go easy on yourself
but the task is a valid and useful one. Dont go overboard on this. If you go out of your way to try and spot EVERY-thing
youll drive yourself crazy
or
you will enhance dissatisfaction with yourself. That is *not* what this is all about. This is to inform
not to critique.
No one is asking you to be a saint
but it is unwise to allow the rather mundane issues throw you for a loop. If you find an offensive issue that really sets you off
remember that one. Dont try to work on it right then
well discuss how to deal with them later. Make a note of it
put it in your journal
and set it aside. That in itself is a good practice. Approach it on a rather neutral time. This helps in being a bit objective about it all.
Start slow
start small
start gently
become aware.
More later.
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01-11-2020, 12:47 AM
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I particularly like this #13...maybe cuz I haven't seen 12 yet. LOL
It did need to be said.
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Prepare yourself for the coming astral journey of death by daily riding in the balloon of God-perception.
Through delusion you are perceiving yourself as a bundle of flesh and bones, which at best is a nest of troubles.
Meditate unceasingly, that you may quickly behold yourself as the Infinite Essence, free from every form of misery. ~Paramahansa's Guru's Guru.
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01-11-2020, 02:38 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by zorkchop
( janielee
take note. Youre gonna like this series. )
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Thanks ! 
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01-11-2020, 08:39 AM
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salute the numero uno in centillion
Quote:
Originally Posted by zorkchop
Considerations Twelve …
Checkpoints, Safeguards, and Spiritual Law …
So far … everything I have put here is certainly a mental understanding of the much bigger picture of LIFE. ( LIFE is the Whole of Existence … especially by way of Divine Spirit. ) I have lightly tried to offer information on the psychic bodies and the role they play. There is obviously *much* more that could be written on any or all of them. Along the way … if we keep this going … I will probably do that to some extent or another … but now I want to step a bit farther out.
No one steps onto and into the Soul Plane by mistake. Now … as a precaution … a mental precaution as to what people might say to that last statement … I will add this …
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Salute the numero uno in centillion . Thanks for nice account of soul journey beyond mind . Wonderful and very much appreciate and thanks again.
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