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Old 29-05-2021, 02:16 PM
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The fun thing is you can test it yourself.
No need, what-so-ever, to believe educated researchers in lab coats.
No reason!
*Are there labs testing this? Those that care to find out can.
It's like all research in parapsychology: if someone in the room strongly believes that all is random, then the research will just make that conclusion!
If they all believe it works and it does, then another team of researchers will do a counter-experiment and accuse the first one to fake their results!
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Old 29-05-2021, 02:27 PM
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I was rather hoping, though, that someone might understand this so-called law well enough to be able to explain it simply using words - their own words for preference.....
I can explain how I was introduced to it, at 8-9 years old when learning to play the tarot game.
Basically if you want to have good draws and good cards, you ask for it! And then you get.
Of course as almost everyone asks, everyone gets something.

And then of course, as Miss Hepburn states, there is no need for asking, believing makes it. The one that believes strongly that he's the best at the game will probably win. Then there are different ways of winning, there could be several winners etc etc.

But, in the conditions where only one person asks and all others are absolutely blank of desires, the one asking will get.

It's like the last portion of a cake on a table: if only one wants, he/she will get. The magic in this law is that it works on a game of cards (supposedly random), and at a much deeper level than just asking.
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Old 29-05-2021, 02:31 PM
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Ok, here's my crack at explaining the Law of Attraction (LoA) in simple terms from Abraham-Hicks' (Abe) perspective (probably the most popular teachers of this today).
  • Everything has a vibration (you can think of vibration as being like an energy signature) - thoughts, people, objects, events, etc.
  • The LoA is "That which is like unto itself is drawn" - it brings things of like vibration together
Something additional that Abe teaches is - how you feel is your experience of your vibration. In practical terms, you are constantly attracting thoughts, people, events, objects that are a "vibrational match" to how you predominantly feel.

If you want to attract something specific, you need to bring yourself to a state of feeling how you would if you already have it and sustain that feeling until it is your natural state of being.

People often talk about "applying" or "using" the LoA but it isn't something that you "start" using when you're trying to manifest/attract something. Like gravity, it's always active, so saying you're going to use the LoA to manifest something is like saying you're going to use the law of gravity to get to the bottom of some stairs.
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Old 29-05-2021, 04:03 PM
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People often talk about "applying" or "using" the LoA but it isn't something that you "start" using when you're trying to manifest/attract something. Like gravity, it's always active, so saying you're going to use the LoA to manifest something is like saying you're going to use the law of gravity to get to the bottom of some stairs.
It's always there but "using" or "applying" means, to me, making some changes in our life that are beyond our habits.

If I've got a regular median paid job but I want to get a brand new luxury car, something will need to happen.
Some people claim that they got it by magic. I think most people who were successful at it just claimed what they were entitled to, or had to work to get it.

Coming back to my original question: can men ask as much as women?
I mean, if we live in a society where everyone believes men should work and women are entitled to receive without working as much (because they give love / affection / care etc), I'm quite sure that it would be super hard for any man to ask for something.

There is the reciprocity principle that exists also, maybe it's another phrasing of the LoA.
And because of this one, I would very hesitant to claim something for which I haven't worked for. Would you imagine, after your death, being re-incarnated into a lower being and work like a slave to pay the debts of the current life?
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Old 29-05-2021, 04:37 PM
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Coming back to my original question: can men ask as much as women?
I mean, if we live in a society where everyone believes men should work and women are entitled to receive without working as much (because they give love / affection / care etc), I'm quite sure that it would be super hard for any man to ask for something.
In terms of the LoA, the "asking" isn't the words we speak or form in our minds, it's the desire or preferences we have when we experience things both wanted and unwanted.

If someone is unkind to you and you feel badly about it, underlying that is a desire for more caring interactions with others. This desire is your vibrational "asking" to the universe. You don't need to mentally articulate "I want to have a harmonious connection with this person or other people."

Every time you think/feel, "I like that!" or something warms your heart to see, you have a natural desire for more. That desire is a vibrational asking.

You don't need to consciously ask for anything to attract a wonderful life - you could go about life normally and release any negative feelings that come up as you experience them. If you do that consistently enough to live in a joyful state, you would attract the positive things born from both positive and negative experiences.

Since asking is done on the level of desire, it transcends societal norms, so yes, men can ask as much as women.
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Old 29-05-2021, 04:38 PM
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Hello Guillaume,

To me women work much more than men do, we are the lazy ones.
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Old 29-05-2021, 05:01 PM
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Added after:Lol, I see I have written this before seeing some other posts ---hahah, then this will really be interesting to some!

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It's always there but "using" or "applying" means, to me, making some changes
in our life that are beyond our habits.
I understand completely. And good!
Deliberately being aware of our thoughts, our actions, our inner beliefs
and intentions is very imp.
It's like the first steps on this Awareness Path, imo! Yay!

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Coming back to my original question:
can men ask as much as women?...
Yup. Anyone can ask anything they want. They can believe in whatever they want.

May I give an example in my life that might inspire someone:
My mother would always say, "You kids think money grows on trees."
Then the Old Testament placed a belief deeply into many people for centuries!!! That is, that we must toil for our... well, for our 'everything'.

I re-programmed myself - meaning: I banished those nonsense beliefs out of my head so that my subconscious mind
KNOWS I don't have to work for money and, indeed, I actually find money in trees ($100s), and in bushes, on floors,
in parks and on the counter in the gum when I have found I have forgotten my wallet.
I've been given over $100,000 free with no asking or complaining of any kind (''Oh poor me...'')
I don't toil for money by the Grace of God.

Speaking of princesses, I chuckled --cuz THAT is actually what I identify with...I AM the daughter of a King -
I AM His adored child, I am His little Princess. The apple of His eye.
And as I love Him and acknowledge Him, seeking His Kingdom first, He makes my path straight.
These are the Secrets of the Universe...place the Lord first and all else will come.
I ''ask'' for nothing.
My core beliefs draw all I need like a magnet.
All comes as a natural progression of being
here on earth and knowing the Formula.

And I knew all this before the word LOA became popular with Abraham-Hicks.
It's all found scattered throughout the Bible.
And no one need be a Christian or Jew to be able to pick out these clues about how to live a happy, abundant life.
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Old 29-05-2021, 05:19 PM
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You don't need to consciously ask for anything to attract a wonderful life - you could go about life normally and release any negative feelings that come up as you experience them. If you do that consistently enough to live in a joyful state, you would attract the positive things born from both positive and negative experiences.
Oh yes, I know about that now, and this is the way I will go with my life now. But I have to move and wondered how much I can use that to find a flat.
I totally agree with you, the wonderful life comes within us :)

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Hello Guillaume,
To me women work much more than men do, we are the lazy ones.
Hehe, you are, maybe, I'm not! However, like most young men, I asked for affection in relationships, and/or that's how people perceived my behavior.
Now that I meditate, I have much more to give in that matter.
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Old 29-05-2021, 05:45 PM
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May I give an example in my life that might inspire someone
Ahah, so funny, you finding money in a tree is definitely something that goes in the direction that "we create our life". You invented that and it manifested, just to prove your mother / the bible wrong!!

Thank you for sharing your deep belief, that's very noble :)
Indeed if you place yourself as a servant of the King, then all your actions will be directed towards that and you will receive, that makes sense!
I have deep within me another role within the kingdom: I am no one, so I don't want to disturb them for my stupid questions and miserable life. That's the main reason I don't ask actually! I really think they have more important matters to judge than my own small egocentric life! Unfortunately, it means I had to work for every cent I've earned... but I've been free to follow my own path.

Thank you again, you've been inspiring :)
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Old 29-05-2021, 06:05 PM
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I've kept half an eye on what you're saying and although I intended to stay away I'm gonna add a few ideas more before I do.

Law of attraction, then. Laws to me aren't influenced by emotions or by people. A magnet will attract a magnetic material such as iron or nickel and that attraction happens whether it's a female or a male conducting the experiment. That attraction happens irrespective of how anyone is feeling or thinking or what they might ask for. You can ask for the magnet to stop attracting, or to attract even harder, for as long as you wish but it won't change anything.

When an outcome can be affected by influences that aren't definable, aren't measurable and can't be standardized then it's not a law - it's a principle. The principle of attraction - and still unproven.....
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