what?

[bobjob]

Originally Posted by Greenslade

.... And sometimes people don't want to hear that their laundry needs doing but they need to hear it anyway. In my experience, Spirit gives people what they need and sometimes that's a metaphorical kick in the pants.

I take the stance that simply because a communicator is now a discarnate doesn't mean they automatically know what's right for an incarnate and it doesn't mean they have the right to say what they please.

Busybodies when alive in-the-body may still be those same busybodies now they're 'dead'. They don't automatically become omniscient angels.

[Miss Hepburn]

Originally Posted by bobjob

... now they're 'dead'. They don't automatically become omniscient angels.

Omniscient anything...you ARE correct...they do see things we may not...
but all wise and knowing now? No. (From personal exp.)

[bobjob]

Originally Posted by hazada guess

I've started a new thread on this subject as i don't see bobjob(Sorry bobjob),an authority on this subject!

Good for you for starting that thread and no need to apologise, hg. I can hold my own on any subject where I join a discussion. blessings

I might take a look shortly - shuffleboard beckons me where I am an authority!

[BigJohn]

Originally Posted by bobjob

EXCERPT I take the stance that simply because a communicator is now a discarnate doesn't mean they automatically know what's right for an incarnate and it doesn't mean they have the right to say what they please.

Busybodies when alive in-the-body may still be those same busybodies now they're 'dead'. They don't automatically become omniscient angels.

Some people ....... have a gate keeper, etc. who makes sure certain Spirits are not allowed to come thru. But then, if Uncle Joe, the village drunk, wants to come thru, the person who gets the message from Uncle Joe might be able to discern if that was really Uncle Joe and it might build up confidence with that person that Mediumship might really be real.

And what should happen if a person's parents were 'good for nothing' people, would they be 'allowed' to come thru?

[BigJohn]

Originally Posted by Greenslade

EXCERPT

Mediums are not there to meet people's expectations though, they are there to deliver a message as accurately as they can while remaining neutral. Often what we expect and what happens are two very different beasties, and personally I never go into a session with expectations. An open mind is key and even though my human nature may not like the message, it's also about taking on board what that message is all about - regardless of palate.

Your comments reminded me..........

I ONCE DID A TEST

One time, I went about trying to test things out in various ways. In one test, I told the Spirits that work with me, to give messages, but in the opposite. For example: if the message was really "You will go to Los Angeles", the person would relate to me "You will not got to Los Angeles". To 'cement' this new 'policy', I passworded the 'order'.
Those who apparently were Mediums would give me the 'opposite' messages but would also mention that I should take my messages as being the opposite of what was said. This went on for some time, I think about 1/2 year. Then I decided to change things back to what they were. Sounded great but nothing happened...... because I didn't give the password. I tried numerous passwords and nothing happened. Then one day, I remembered the password and everything was returned to 'normal'. LOL!

[Rah nam]

What do I expect from a medium?
A high level of integrity.

Originally Posted by bobjob

Busybodies when alive in-the-body may still be those same busybodies now they're 'dead'.

You're the one that advocates changing messages.

What you have to remember is that usually, when a Spirit contacts a person it's not any old Spirit, it's someone who's been at least a good friend. The Spirit would know them anyway.

Originally Posted by bobjob

That won't stop people having expectations.....

No it won't but that's part of life anyway. And how would any medium know what people's expectations are anyway, unless hey gave them a list?

[bobjob]

Originally Posted by Greenslade

You're the one that advocates changing messages.

What you have to remember is that usually, when a Spirit contacts a person it's not any old Spirit, it's someone who's been at least a good friend. The Spirit would know them anyway.

In this thread I'm sure I have not advocated changing messages and I doubt I've done that elsewhere either.

I am aware that ideally a loving communicator will come with an uplifting message to demonstrate their survival and to send their love to the recipient. That for me and for others of my Spiritualist group of contacts is the essence of evidential mediumship.

[bobjob]

Originally Posted by Greenslade

No it won't but that's part of life anyway. And how would any medium know what people's expectations are anyway, unless hey gave them a list?

A medium doesn't have to know every individual sitter's expectations but communication with an identified spirit loved one is likely to be a minimum. Maybe you feel my expectations of mediums and mediumship is reasonable or unfair but they remain my expectations.

What others might expect outside of my simple expectations is moot and I don't claim any insight into that.