Thoughts about the mission of Jesus

[davidsun]

Originally Posted by MAYA EL

I think that too much value is attached to the idea of "knowledge"

Many people share such e-value-ation. Concepts/Ideas/Theories are only (positively) useful to people who are capable of being competent craftsmen/women using such tools.

Originally Posted by MAYA EL

knowledge is information about the past and the past is no more only the present exists and although yes there are some similarities to the Past as I like to call it the echo effect nevertheless it is not the same as the past therefore knowledge in general is much like a computer sitting on a table in the middle of an empty room full of very important information and just sitting there by itself it's pretty much worthless unless a person comes up to the computer turns it on and finds the information in it and utilizes it/

Agreed - with the qualification that there is a 'connection' between our (any and everyone's) past, present and future, so intelligent prognostications (subject to verification, of course) may be quite usefully made in said regard. This is one of the 'pillars' that that 'science' and 'philosophy' '(including Mind Science and Spiritual Philosophy) are based on.

then it's value is benefited from and so likewise without proper understanding information not only has little value but can become detrimental towards ones Journey of awakening due to the misunderstandings/false Concepts/ and ideologies.

Originally Posted by MAYA EL

for instance no I have not read your "treatise" however based off of what you have already posted and commented on I have no desire to read it because I'm almost fully convinced I will not find anything of any use in that literature reason being your comments elude to the idea that you believe this Jesus person was a literal physical character that literally was on the Earth at a particular time which is a common standard Christian viewpoint and not a very accurate one at that and because of the fact it's common I do not want to waste my time reading common literature.

Totally understandable - given your assumptions and conclusions. My 'sense' based on my 'resonating' with of his (reported) sayings and deeds (allowing for exaggerations in the latter case) is that Jesus was a (historically) very real person.

[weareunity]

Hello all.

Bit of a sideways look at knowledge--wondering if you, me, anyone, chooses to believe that all- the whole- is one constant process of interaction, interconnection, interdependence, which logically includes all which is, then is the keeping of knowledge to yourself for personal gain, an action contrary to that belief?

Re knowledge being about the past--which you put forward Maya. As David says, knowledge about the past, the way things have happened in the past, can be helpful in trying to predict the course and likely outcome of current and future happenings. Predicting consequences. Thing is--whether we are inclined to take any notice of such predictions, or for some reason choose to ignore. Pondering on what those reasons might be is also a worthwhile study/knowledge Imo.

petex

Originally Posted by weareunity

Hello all.

Bit of a sideways look at knowledge--wondering if you, me, anyone, chooses to believe that all- the whole- is one constant process of interaction, interconnection, interdependence, which logically includes all which is, then is the keeping of knowledge to yourself for personal gain, an action contrary to that belief?

Re knowledge being about the past--which you put forward Maya. As David says, knowledge about the past, the way things have happened in the past, can be helpful in trying to predict the course and likely outcome of current and future happenings. Predicting consequences. Thing is--whether we are inclined to take any notice of such predictions for some reason. Pondering on what those reasons might be is also a worthwhile study/knowledge Imo.

petex

Oh I agree that there can be plenty of logical justifications made

[Morpheus]

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Originally Posted by Miss Hepburn

I am very interested in the mission of Jesus...it seems to me
his entire mission was a healing mission.
In every way... ...and his mission began the moment he
came out of his 40 day fast declaring the Kingdom of Heaven was at hand....
I tend to really pay attention to a man that has fasted 40 days and 40 nights in a wilderness setting!

So again, He Himself expressed His purpose and mission. "The Son of Man", (Daniel 7:13), "came not to be served, but to serve, and to give His life as a ransom for the many."
Mathew 20:28

He clearly expressed to His disciples that His mission was to become the atoning Lamb of God for sins, but they couldn't receive it either, Hep.

[Morpheus]

They also asked Him for a sign, if you recall.

He responded that an evil generation seeks after a sign, and the only sign they would get would be the sign of Jonah. Who was in the belly of the fish for three days before re emerging.

Mathew 12:39

They were metaphysical stories to explain something they were never literal.

[BigJohn]

Originally Posted by MAYA EL

They were metaphysical stories to explain something they were never literal.

Was Jesus' death also a metaphysical story?

Originally Posted by BigJohn

Was Jesus' death also a metaphysical story?

Good question.If you read the Bible,it seems impossible for some of the things to happen.

Originally Posted by BigJohn

Was Jesus' death also a metaphysical story?

Absolutely matter of fact its the grand finale of all the stories in the bible.

[davidsun]

The following excerpt, copied from a scan of Jane Robert's pook, Seth Speaks, presents a 'channeled' view of 'Christ'. It is presented in two successive posts because of its length. (Please note: IMO it is just another 'view', which IMO is not necessarily completely accurate. There are as many 'views' [many quite differing) of Jesus et al. as their are 'viewers'. It strikes me probably being true-er than most, however.)

Enjoy!

CHAPTER XIV

STORIES OF THE BEGINNING, AND THE MULTIDIMENSIONAL GOD

As the present life of any individual rises from hidden dimensions beyond those easily accessible in physical terms, and as it draws its energy and power to act from unconscious sources, so does the present physical universe as you know it rise from other dimensions. So does it have its source, and derive its energy from deeper realities.

History, as you know it, represents but one single light upon which you focus.