The false self

[mary isaak]

Originally Posted by MikeS80

The observer is the observed, the thinker is the thought...

I understand, thank you MikeS80

Originally Posted by MikeS80

Another big thing about the false self is that the false self is scared to death about being alone...

This is a very interesting point, I will apply it to differentiate the thoughts coming from oneness from the thoughts coming from the false self. Thanks!

[Miss Hepburn]

Originally Posted by Legrand

When we press on the button Quote:
Do we have to edit the quote of the other member if its more than 3 sentences?

Yes. Exactamundo! Just like I did with yours just now for example.
And you can refer to the post if it is way back on another page: Excerpt from post 45.
Hey, it's new to me, too.
But it comes from the top...has to do with space issues.

Originally Posted by Miss Hepburn

Yes. Exactamundo!
But it comes from the top...has to do with space issues.

Ok comprundo now!

Should it not be posted as a rule then in the FAQ sheet? Instead of remembering each time with a post in the treads this rule?

And what if more than 3 quoted sentences are relevant to the answer we want to give?

Regards

[mary isaak]

Originally Posted by Greenslade

The whole idea that we have a number of 'selfs' is not good, neither Spiritually nor psychologically. ..

Thank you very much for all the details Greenslade I can understand that distinctions like true/false, positive/negative can be irrelevant.
I am not sure I got the big picture. From this stand point, is the self realization process a psychological process? Does it mean that everything we experience is the result of programming? Is there an ultimate reality? Thanks

[Miss Hepburn]

Originally Posted by Legrand

And what if more than 3 quoted sentences are relevant to the answer we want to give?

Beats me.
You could say, " As to your statement re Nebula285, I think you're incorrect...". I dunno.
This is where you have to put your Thinking Cap on.

[The Cobbler's Apprentice]

To quote A.A.Milne, creator of Winnie the Pooh, "A quotation is a handy thing to have about, saving one the trouble of thinking for oneself, always a laborious business."

If you right-click on the post # in the upper right corner you have the option to "Copy link address" to your clipboard and you can then paste it like so:
From https://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/s...5&postcount=32
Then add a quote from that post:

Originally Posted by Miss Hepburn

And you can refer to the post if it is way back on another page: Excerpt from post 45.

The post can be referred back to if more context is needed.

[MikeS80]

Originally Posted by mary isaak

I understand, thank you MikeS80

You are welcome.

[iamthat]

Originally Posted by mary isaak

...So, does it mean that one can reach self realization without external change (same job, places, friends)?

Of course. The Self is always present, here and now, wherever we are, whatever we are doing. We do not have to go to a monastery or a cave to find the Self, although the advantage of such places is that most external distractions are removed.

There is a group of teachers such as Rupert Spira and Adyashanti who are generally categorised as Neo-Advaitists. There are legitimate criticisms of the approaches and teachings of these Neo-Advaitists, but the positive aspect of Neo-Advaitism is the emphasis that Self-realisation is possible for "ordinary" people leading "ordinary" lives, here and now.

Peace

Originally Posted by mary isaak:
...So, does it mean that one can reach self realization without external change (same job, places, friends)?

Just saw this one, thanks IAmThat for highlighting this question from Mary Isaak.

Mary,

I would say things may change, depends of your relation you had before.

You seem to have liked my metaphor about the sun classes. So here is another one.

When I was born, I almost never cried. When my parents received friends at their home and their friends would take me in their arms and I would cry, my parents started asking themselves why I would cry in their arms. After a deep inquiry, they soon found out that they were not real friends but were only there because of their notoriety and for their money. So they stopped inviting them.

Little things like that may change for you if you chose to stay on the path of acting in this world once you have merged with your Self.

Antoine