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Old 19-11-2020, 12:34 PM
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The Jesus Sutras.

https://thejesusquestion.org/2011/08...e-stone-sutra/


Some may find these writings ' Beautiful ' as I have. Written by the last Christian Taoist and rediscovered hidden in Caves....
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Hope this helps those that never heard the word Sutra.

Sutras: a genre of ancient and medieval Indian texts found in Hinduism, Buddhism and Jainism.

A rule or aphorism in Sanskrit literature, or a set of these on grammar or Hindu law or philosophy.

What's an aphorism? An aphorism is a concise, terse, laconic, or memorable expression of a general truth or principle.
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Old 19-11-2020, 01:46 PM
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Fascinating - For those that don't click the link.
The 2 sentence copy limit, btw.


The Jesus Sutras teach that because people’s innate good nature had become confused and obscured
(Christians might say “marred by sin”), God had to come to Earth as Ye Su (Jesus).

“Therefore, my Lord Ye Su, the One emanating in three subtle bodies, hid his true power, became a human,
and came on behalf of the Lord of Heaven to preach the good teachings” (2:17).


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Through delusion you are perceiving yourself as a bundle of flesh and bones...Meditate unceasingly,
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Old 19-11-2020, 02:02 PM
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Hope this helps those that never heard the word Sutra.

Sutras: a genre of ancient and medieval Indian texts found in Hinduism, Buddhism and Jainism.

A rule or aphorism in Sanskrit literature, or a set of these on grammar or Hindu law or philosophy.

What's an aphorism? An aphorism is a concise, terse, laconic, or memorable expression of a general truth or principle.


' Sutras: a genre of ancient and medieval Indian texts found in Hinduism, Buddhism and Jainism. '

Yes, and it also means ' The Thread that binds us together '.
The Jesus Sutras are the binding together of Christianity and Taoism
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Old 19-11-2020, 02:03 PM
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[quote=Miss Hepburn]Fascinating - For those that don't click the link.
The 2 sentence copy limit, btw.


The Jesus Sutras teach that because people’s innate good nature had become confused and obscured
(Christians might say “marred by sin”), God had to come to Earth as Ye Su (Jesus).

“Therefore, my Lord Ye Su, the One emanating in three subtle bodies, hid his true power, became a human,
and came on behalf of the Lord of Heaven to preach the good teachings” (2:17).



' The 2 sentence copy limit, btw. '


Sorry I completely forgot .
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Old 20-11-2020, 05:23 PM
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https://thejesusquestion.org/2011/08...e-stone-sutra/


Some may find these writings ' Beautiful ' as I have. Written by the last Christian Taoist and rediscovered hidden in Caves....


sky123,

These are beautiful...thanks for sharing this site. They offer a different perspective that can add to our understanding. Essentially they provide somewhat of an 180 degree view of things from a different viewpoint....like being able to see the 2 sides of a coin. I was struck by this passage from the site:

" in Matthew 13:45-46, Jesus says, “Again, the kingdom of heaven is like a merchant looking for fine pearls. When he found one of great value, he went away and sold everything he had and bought it.” In this scenario, you are the pearl of great value, and Jesus is the buyer; he purchased you at infinite cost to himself, because he values you that much."

The 'infinite cost' reminds us of the crucifixion of Jesus. "For God so loved the world...." etc. Also the parable of searching for the lost sheep and leaving the 99 to search for that one lost individual. It is love that we cannot quite conceive of....not something that most of us would be inclined to do.

Just to demonstrate how scripture can be interpreted differently I will offer a different interpretation of this same scripture. In doing so, I would suggest that we get out of our heads that there is only one correct interpretation of any specific scripture. The beauty of scripture is that it leads one into contemplation that can present new understandings and speak to us both directly and personally.

Another interpretation of this parable about the pearl of great value some understand the pearl as representing eternal truth. The 'merchant' whose livilihood is dealing in pearls can be seen as us. We are the ones who have viewed many 'pearls'(which can be our personal insights and beliefs) but we find ouirselves willing to abandon all that we have previously had in our possession for that one great thing: eternal truth. Paul writing is Phillipians 3:8-10......"for his sake I have suffered loss of all things and count them as rubbish, in order that I may gain Christ...." This is recognition of the pearl of great value. To continue this interpretation one must consider the properties of a pearl: a pearl is spherical(whole) brilliant(divine) hidden in an oyster(veiled) and is found only in the depths of sea(consciousness)

In short there are many different ways to interpret scripture and each way can be a way of opening our minds. At some point we begin to rather than search for others interpretations to attempt to access our Spirit and our own intution to arrive at personal epiphanies.
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Old 20-11-2020, 05:32 PM
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In this same spirit of what I posted above is a Japanese rendering of the 23rd Psalm.

"
The Lord is my Pace-Setter,
I shall not rush.

He makes me stop and rest for quiet intervals.

He provides for me with images of stillness

which restore my serenity.

He leads me in ways of efficiency

Through calmness of mind,

And His guidance is Peace.

Even though I have a great many things

to accomplish each day

I will not fret

For His presence is here.

His timelessness,

His all-importance,

Will keep me in balance.

He prepares refreshment and renewal

in the midst of my activity

by anointing my head

with His oils of tranquility.

My cup of joyous energy overflows.

Surely harmony and effectiveness

Shall be the fruits of my hours

For I shall walk

In the place of my Lord

And dwell in His house

For ever.

*Ascribed to Toki Miyashina (original source unknown)

As you can see it follows in spirt the translations we are familiar with but it takes into account the different culture from which it emanates. The imagery of shepherds does not necessarily resonate with the Japanese culture and we are presented here an understanding and interpretation that speaks to an Eastern culture.
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Old 20-11-2020, 07:03 PM
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sky123,

These are beautiful...thanks for sharing this site. They offer a different perspective that can add to our understanding. Essentially they provide somewhat of an 180 degree view of things from a different viewpoint....like being able to see the 2 sides of a coin. I was struck by this passage from the site:

" in Matthew 13:45-46, Jesus says, “Again, the kingdom of heaven is like a merchant looking for fine pearls. When he found one of great value, he went away and sold everything he had and bought it.” In this scenario, you are the pearl of great value, and Jesus is the buyer; he purchased you at infinite cost to himself, because he values you that much."

The 'infinite cost' reminds us of the crucifixion of Jesus. "For God so loved the world...." etc. Also the parable of searching for the lost sheep and leaving the 99 to search for that one lost individual. It is love that we cannot quite conceive of....not something that most of us would be inclined to do.

Just to demonstrate how scripture can be interpreted differently I will offer a different interpretation of this same scripture. In doing so, I would suggest that we get out of our heads that there is only one correct interpretation of any specific scripture. The beauty of scripture is that it leads one into contemplation that can present new understandings and speak to us both directly and personally.

Another interpretation of this parable about the pearl of great value some understand the pearl as representing eternal truth. The 'merchant' whose livilihood is dealing in pearls can be seen as us. We are the ones who have viewed many 'pearls'(which can be our personal insights and beliefs) but we find ouirselves willing to abandon all that we have previously had in our possession for that one great thing: eternal truth. Paul writing is Phillipians 3:8-10......"for his sake I have suffered loss of all things and count them as rubbish, in order that I may gain Christ...." This is recognition of the pearl of great value. To continue this interpretation one must consider the properties of a pearl: a pearl is spherical(whole) brilliant(divine) hidden in an oyster(veiled) and is found only in the depths of sea(consciousness)

In short there are many different ways to interpret scripture and each way can be a way of opening our minds. At some point we begin to rather than search for others interpretations to attempt to access our Spirit and our own intution to arrive at personal epiphanies.



I'm glad you enjoyed them Mo, they are ' Pearls of Wisdom '
I love your interpretation and agree there is never just ONE interpretation of any Scriptures they are personal to each individual.
I love to read insights from other Cultures, they certainly do open our minds to ' Interbeing '.
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Old 20-11-2020, 07:08 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Molearner
In this same spirit of what I posted above is a Japanese rendering of the 23rd Psalm.

"
The Lord is my Pace-Setter,
I shall not rush.

He makes me stop and rest for quiet intervals.

He provides for me with images of stillness

which restore my serenity.

He leads me in ways of efficiency

Through calmness of mind,

And His guidance is Peace.

Even though I have a great many things

to accomplish each day

I will not fret

For His presence is here.

His timelessness,

His all-importance,

Will keep me in balance.

He prepares refreshment and renewal

in the midst of my activity

by anointing my head

with His oils of tranquility.

My cup of joyous energy overflows.

Surely harmony and effectiveness

Shall be the fruits of my hours

For I shall walk

In the place of my Lord

And dwell in His house

For ever.

*Ascribed to Toki Miyashina (original source unknown)

As you can see it follows in spirt the translations we are familiar with but it takes into account the different culture from which it emanates. The imagery of shepherds does not necessarily resonate with the Japanese culture and we are presented here an understanding and interpretation that speaks to an Eastern culture.


Thanks Mo, that is beautiful. I haven't read it before and really love the first 4 lines. What a Gem, have you got any more
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Old 20-11-2020, 09:13 PM
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I'm glad you enjoyed them Mo, they are ' Pearls of Wisdom '
I love your interpretation and agree there is never just ONE interpretation of any Scriptures they are personal to each individual.
I love to read insights from other Cultures, they certainly do open our minds to ' Interbeing '.

Sky123,

These 2 opposite interpretations (one with Jesus as the merchant...the other as us as the merchant) suggest how the duality of 2 can morph into the non duality of 1. When opposites attract they merge into 1(marriage). In this instance we can be inspired by either. The net result is that we were inspired....the result being more important than the reason......if that makes any sense.....:)
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