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Old 11-02-2022, 10:35 AM
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In my language it is exactly the same thing. We only have one word for it.
The difference is in the words themselves, 'faith' starts with a f, 'belief' starts with a b, faith proceeds with an a, belief with an e. And so forth.
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Old 12-02-2022, 01:54 AM
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Belief in God is merely the supposition that there is a God, whereas faith in God is more like a trust that God is good.

Personally, I don't believe in God, but trust is universal and pertains to truthfulness and other virtues like reliability, dependability etc.
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Old 12-02-2022, 02:35 AM
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Belief in God is merely the supposition that there is a God, whereas faith in God is more like a trust that God is good.
Personally, I don't believe in God, but trust is universal and pertains to truthfulness and other virtues like reliability, dependability etc.
Sounds like belief is colder. Faith has more heart and hope. (?)

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Old 12-02-2022, 01:24 PM
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Belief............Is to think what you are pondering is true.
Faith.............Is to act with your beliefs.

(Does that make sense?).
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Old 12-02-2022, 02:28 PM
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Sounds like belief is colder. Faith has more heart and hope. (?)
I'm not into belief and faith very much because people can believe and be faithful and still be as mean as a cut snake, but real things that cultivate trust are more my cup of tea.
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Old 12-02-2022, 04:51 PM
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I'm not into belief and faith very much because people can believe and be faithful and still be as mean as a cut snake, but real things that cultivate trust are more my cup of tea.
Yes where beliefs aren't aligned to behaviour, it's just lip service i.e. not walking the talk....all too common! (Words are easy - being authentic requires motivation and application).

I'm a realist, so I also prefer dealing with that which can be verified (on some level, i.e. not necessarily scientifically) or /known/experienced to be true/real. When it comes to spirituality though, that tends to be very much a grey area! I try to steer clear of concepts that seem more mentally defined than backed up by anything known/experienced where possible.
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Old 12-02-2022, 05:07 PM
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faith and belief

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Discuss the diff between faith and belief here
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In life there are always somethings are known and experienced first hand. And certain things are unknown unexperienced first hand . Normally people veer towards the known experienced stuffs and fear unknown . Share of unknown in our life is also significant . Unknown comes in myriad ways/thoughts like what if 2nd officer of the flight i am going to travel by will have suicidal tendencies and will crash the flight straight into ridge, the driver of the bus will cause an accident of the bus etc.

Faith is ability to see / hope that encounter with unknown too can/will be good for us and the ability to remain focused in our goals cheerfully in current place/time/situation. Still being faithful does not mean we do not learn unknown and convert it into known when the time comes . Faithful still takes legitimate pre-cautions in life. Faithful has the ability to discern that something great can emerge even from unknown also.

Beliefs are foundational thoughts/simple rules/premises people use while navigating through life to derive conclusions and to make decisions/choices.
Now these rules / premises are called beliefs because primarily this is believed without questioning/evidence (like in material sciences) .
Beliefs can be spiritual/psychological/economical/political/educational or any collectively agreed set of rules in any discipline/science. Beliefs right or wrong has the capacity to change life experience drastically.

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Old 13-02-2022, 03:51 PM
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The discussion is open for your personal definitions ... quote others...whatever.
Why are there 2 distinct diff words, for example, to get the ball rolling.
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Hello,

To me, faith is what is trusted. Belief are the reasons behind what may trusted and/or taken as being true.

I have faith that I am not going to float off this Earth into space. What is called gravity keeps me grounded. Experience of not floating into space confirms my trust.

What gravity is or may be are according to the information gathered so far that tells me what creates gravity. But, it seems as gravity is explored deeper, discover there is much more to discover about it, lol. So, still going on what is believed but not not fully known.

Still the forces of gravity are felt and have effects.

Faith at times does not need explanation. It is just there or not.
Beliefs can change as more experience and information are obtained.

Both can play hand in hand with each other. As one goes deeper and obtains confirmation can deepen ones faith. But, the core of what one has trust/faith in seems not to change.
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Old 13-02-2022, 05:34 PM
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Great responses, thank you all.

Another angle: Faith in something you absolutely have never seen or experienced.
Belief in something you absolutely have never seen or experienced.
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Old 24-02-2022, 03:35 PM
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The discussion is open for your personal definitions ... quote others...whatever.
Why are there 2 distinct diff words, for example, to get the ball rolling.
Comment in any way ..
This is the place.
Belief systems are associated with groups pf people. Faith is typically associated with individuals.
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