the role and nature of logic in the process of existence.

[FallingLeaves]

wearunity -

so i have come to think the exploration is different for different people, and for where they personally are. One person might have to hunt for scraps; another might have so much bounty rained down on them they get a little prideful... another might have another kind of bounty rained down on them and not understand its beauty for what it is....

the overall destination is never known because despite our interest to make it otherwise, the process of LIFE always has to be open-ended; if everything were to come to a complete and satisfactory end the way we would like what is the point in going on?

That doesn't mean you can't know something about some of the bus stops you can get off at though....

as far as how to proceed... what people don't get is that this isn't so much about how to proceed or where to go next, as it is about the very desire to be proceeding at all. And that is something that has to be found by each individual that wants it; it can't be imbued by outside forces. The only thing that can be provided by outside forces is incentives to do work in this direction... personally i look at this world that seems so broken in so many ways but I can't help to see just how much it is designed to help us out even though we don't much like what we are getting.

someone once told me god is a master-fisherman

anyway despite our ongoing desire to tell people to do this or do that and they will reap some rewards we think they should value, the most effective thing always is just for someone to show people something and let them decide for themselves whether it is worth anything to them, personally.

[Gem]

Nature has an "if/then" - like if it rains, then the seeds grow.

[FallingLeaves]

Originally Posted by Gem

Nature has an "if/then" - like if it rains, then the seeds grow.

so to me that isn't quite accurate, more along the lines of 'rain is part of what creates an environment in which seeds can grow'.

[Gem]

Originally Posted by FallingLeaves

so to me that isn't quite accurate, more along the lines of 'rain is part of what creates an environment in which seeds can grow'.

If it doesn't rain, then the seeds will not grow. If/then is the basic structure of logic.

[FallingLeaves]

Originally Posted by Gem

If it doesn't rain, then the seeds will not grow. If/then is the basic structure of logic.

yes if you want to state it that way then you are stating something logical. I would like to point out though, that is not the statement from you that I responded to...

[weareunity]

Hello all.

Toward the end of #3 on this thread:--the thought that disruption/disturbing the sequencing of past occurrences ---and thereby causing changes in subsequent causes and consequences--- would seem to create "impossible" circumstances for the ability of logic to accommodate??

This seems to be something like the reasoning underlying the proposition that " time travel" from a particular "now" which allows interference with past events is therefore impossible since such "interference" would inevitably alter the nature of the existence---or the actual existence--- of that particular "now"??

But perhaps such occurence is not actually impossible, but is a possible occurence which, however, logic is only able to accommodate by one logical protective measure----a shutdown and reset. ?? What might be the nature of such an event?

I realise the uninformed sketchiness of the above thoughts/questions, but,-----???

Cheers. X