The Nature of Experience.

[Gem]

How do you guys think experience happens?

I dont understand the question gem. It leaves me with the questions..do we think experience happens? or just accept experience as it happens?

Even the memory/thought of a previous experience is now a brand new experience of a thought. Does that make sense?

[andrew g]

I would say that awareness, knowingness, God is 'The Experiencer'. Creation is the means through which the Experiencer experiences. I would say that the relationship between Awareness and Creation is the relationship between Being and Mind. They are not separate. They go hand in hand though it might be helpful sometimes to conceptualize Awareness as being prior to Creation, and Being as prior to Mind. I would say that prior to Creation, there is still a point OF Creation - an unmanifested potential of pure Consciousness.

Awareness/Knowingness is God. Consciousness is the Mind of God. They are not separate though there may be a time when the manifested returns to a point of infinite potential and The Experiencer awaits a new dream of its Mind through which it can experience itself.

[Gem]

Originally Posted by xxheatherxx

I dont understand the question gem. It leaves me with the questions..do we think experience happens? or just accept experience as it happens?

Even the memory/thought of a previous experience is now a brand new experience of a thought. Does that make sense?

Yes makes sence.

Firstly, no two experiences are identical... so this is a first.

We believe it happens whether it does or not.

What is this belief that changes moment to moment? Is that even a belief?

Yes we accept it just happens, but it happens as changing from moment to moment so there is no tangible real experience, just the witnessing of change.

We change every day, sometimes many times a day. Today you'll read something on these boards, you'll go do something else but you're imperceptibly changed. Someone writes something and before you know it, it's sneaked past your defences and into your mind. When you think of a previous experience you're looking at it from a different perspective, you're not the same person as the one that had the experience.

I would disagree with you that there is no tangible, real experience. If something happens to us, isn't that pretty real?

[Gem]

Originally Posted by Greenslade

We change every day, sometimes many times a day. Today you'll read something on these boards, you'll go do something else but you're imperceptibly changed. Someone writes something and before you know it, it's sneaked past your defences and into your mind. When you think of a previous experience you're looking at it from a different perspective, you're not the same person as the one that had the experience.

I would disagree with you that there is no tangible, real experience. If something happens to us, isn't that pretty real?

Yep... I reckon it's real enough and experience is as real as it gets, but don't we just believe it happens?

Originally Posted by Gem

Yep... I reckon it's real enough and experience is as real as it gets, but don't we just believe it happens?

Getting it and believing we've got it are not always the same, Gem.

[sound]

Through intent and expectation Gem ... natural magic lol :)

Originally Posted by Gem

Yes makes sence.

Firstly, no two experiences are identical... so this is a first.

We believe it happens whether it does or not.

What is this belief that changes moment to moment? Is that even a belief?

Yes we accept it just happens, but it happens as changing from moment to moment so there is no tangible real experience, just the witnessing of change.

We can surely experience belief without believing what we believe to be true.

[Gem]

Originally Posted by xxheatherxx

We can surely experience belief without believing what we believe to be true.

We can be sure what we believe is not true because no two experiences are the same and belief is always changing too.

The think is, how can something in flux and change be called 'real' ... which changind belief can be called true?