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14-06-2020, 03:37 PM
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Conscientious objection.
Do you conscientiously object to anything? I do. I believe that Christ did too. I sympathise with his conscientious outrage. The Christian path is one of following your conscience and being true to Christ. It encourages conscientious objection to evil and profanity.
The eastern path on the other hand encourages complete acceptance. Even of all the bad things. I AM accepts everything equally - both good and bad. It does not raise any conscientious objections to anything. Not even evil.
That is why I do not like I AM. It is too accepting of evil. It sees good and evil in equal light. I AM is a neutral path. Total acceptance and no resistance to anything. It does not raise any objections to anything.
I do object to all manner of things. I do not totally accept all things. I conscientiously object to evil and badness. I believe that Christ did too.
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14-06-2020, 03:52 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Honza
Do you conscientiously object to anything? I do. I believe that Christ did too. I sympathise with his conscientious outrage. The Christian path is one of following your conscience and being true to Christ. It encourages conscientious objection to evil and profanity.
The eastern path on the other hand encourages complete acceptance. Even of all the bad things. I AM accepts everything equally - both good and bad. It does not raise any conscientious objections to anything. Not even evil.
That is why I do not like I AM. It is too accepting of evil. It sees good and evil in equal light. I AM is a neutral path. Total acceptance and no resistance to anything. It does not raise any objections to anything.
I do object to all manner of things. I do not totally accept all things. I conscientiously object to evil and badness. I believe that Christ did too.
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'The eastern path on the other hand encourages complete acceptance. Even of all the bad things.'
Which Eastern Path ?
Which one have you Personally followed to be able to make this assumption ?
In previous Posts you accepted I Am, has the wind changed direction lol....
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14-06-2020, 04:01 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Honza
Do you conscientiously object to anything? I do. I believe that Christ did too. I sympathise with his conscientious outrage. The Christian path is one of following your conscience and being true to Christ. It encourages conscientious objection to evil and profanity.
The eastern path on the other hand encourages complete acceptance. Even of all the bad things. I AM accepts everything equally - both good and bad. It does not raise any conscientious objections to anything. Not even evil.
That is why I do not like I AM. It is too accepting of evil. It sees good and evil in equal light. I AM is a neutral path. Total acceptance and no resistance to anything. It does not raise any objections to anything.
I do object to all manner of things. I do not totally accept all things. I conscientiously object to evil and badness. I believe that Christ did too.
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Some Christians conscientiously object to the draft/military.
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14-06-2020, 05:30 PM
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How does one object?
That to me is the area of my focus.
Can I object Lovingly?
Or do I object defiantly?
One can bring peace and the other strife.
Also in my acceptance, I get to choose.
Accept out of Love?
Accept out of complacency?
One can bring unity/growth and the other calamity.
Then, can I examine my reactions honestly, or with denial and self righteousness?
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14-06-2020, 06:40 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Honza
Do you conscientiously object to anything? I do. I believe that Christ did too. I sympathise with his conscientious outrage. The Christian path is one of following your conscience and being true to Christ. It encourages conscientious objection to evil and profanity.
The eastern path on the other hand encourages complete acceptance. Even of all the bad things. I AM accepts everything equally - both good and bad. It does not raise any conscientious objections to anything. Not even evil.
That is why I do not like I AM. It is too accepting of evil. It sees good and evil in equal light. I AM is a neutral path. Total acceptance and no resistance to anything. It does not raise any objections to anything.
I do object to all manner of things. I do not totally accept all things. I conscientiously object to evil and badness. I believe that Christ did too.
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I think it has to do with understanding. When you understand, and I mean, really understand a person (aka feel), you will know they are not "evil" or "good." They are a person who has made a choice. When you separate it, and when you understand how someone could make an evil choice (by relating/having made mistakes yourself, for example), you can empathize and still love them as they are.
That does not mean you agree with their choice. You may feel disappointed. But you may also start to see a bigger picture. In evil, there is benefit that can't come around any other way. We can't always see the good in things - but it is there. It's not always easy to accept that knowledge. However, I know that I've learned more from those who have been cruel to me, than from anywhere else. I'm thankful for that. I would not choose to experience those things again, but I am thankful.
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14-06-2020, 07:57 PM
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It's easy to object / agree ... sometimes you're right, other times you're wrong. It takes much more strength and wisdom to recognize when you were wrong, and next time to be more careful before objecting / agree.
Then it is a matter of what you're doing about your objection / agreement, and what you're doing about others' objections / agreement, especially those that are opposite to your objections / agreements.
I believe that objection isn't different in any way from agreement, including your responsibility for that opinion and subsequent action (or lack of action).
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15-06-2020, 01:28 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sky123
'The eastern path on the other hand encourages complete acceptance. Even of all the bad things.'
Which Eastern Path ?
Which one have you Personally followed to be able to make this assumption ?
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All of them. One does not need to follow a path in order to understand it's principles. Tell me; what does I AM object to? Conscientiously objecting disrupts total acceptance. It would disturb the peace. I AM is a path of no objection.
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In previous Posts you accepted I Am, has the wind changed direction lol....
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I accept I AM for what it is, but to me there is more.
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15-06-2020, 01:31 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ImthatIm
How does one object?
That to me is the area of my focus.
Can I object Lovingly?
Or do I object defiantly?
One can bring peace and the other strife.
Also in my acceptance, I get to choose.
Accept out of Love?
Accept out of complacency?
One can bring unity/growth and the other calamity.
Then, can I examine my reactions honestly, or with denial and self righteousness?
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I think you have it right.
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16-06-2020, 02:10 AM
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I must admit that there is also a lot to be said for not conscientious objecting and just letting things be as they are. Too much conscience can hurt....
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16-06-2020, 07:25 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Honza
I must admit that there is also a lot to be said for not conscientious objecting and just letting things be as they are. Too much conscience can hurt....
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It does depends on what a person is conscientious objecting.
For example, if the government says you must go to war, you can go to war or object. If you object, it probably will be based on your own belief system.
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Happiness is the result of an enlightened mind whereas suffering is caused by a distorted mind.
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