Soul and Science

Originally Posted by chandersanja

How can we define soul in scientific terms?

You can't. It isn't directly observable, only through the complexity of factors that make the owner what they are.

Everyone has a different understanding of the word, assuming they bother to look into and understand at all.
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[utopiandreamchild]

Soul is the emotional energy. Emotion is the seat of the soul. Science can measure thought waves and that's as close to understanding the soul as they could be. Amen

[Rah nam]

It is a unit of consciousness

Originally Posted by Rah nam

It is a unit of consciousness

Nice.

The same way scientists say a line goes on into infinity.
So they can only measure a line segment and want us to believe a line never ends.


So scientifically I could have them measure all my energies and apply their same principles of belief.
But it still is inadequate, if proof is desired.
I could make a few graphs and diagrams to throw in.


Now will scientists or anyone believe me? Some will. Most probably not.

[tom63376]

How can we define soul in scientific terms?

Like many of you, I have read many different explanations of the soul. I’ll share now what I’ve gathered that resonates with me.

We begin as extensions of our I AM Presence which is a unique expression of the Creator which exists at such a high vibration of light that nothing on earth could possibly affect it. It would be like shooting a cannon projectile at the sun. This pure core of our being is sometimes referred to as the “conscious you”.

In order to embody, we must first descend in consciousness and vibration to a kind of neutral level of consciousness, the median of the collective consciousness on earth; neither particularly high nor particularly low. We all come with the objective of raising up the whole, the collective consciousness of the inhabitants of earth by coming to earth at about the midpoint of the collective where we have an opportunity to demonstrate how to overcome fear and limitation to demonstrate to others that they have the same potential giving them the opportunity to transcend their current level of consciousness and helping them find the upward ascending spiral of consciousness.

Earth however is a very dense, very difficult planet and a large number of beings have descended in consciousness and fear and resent beings with any degree of light and high potential for growth. Soon after coming to earth for the first time we are attacked, persecuted, mocked etc by those who fear or envy our light. So then not knowing what else we can do, we mis-use our light to start creating psychological protective devices that manifest themselves as separate selves that create typically in response to the intense thought: “I NEVER want to experience that again.” These fear-based thoughts and beliefs are energy, sometimes described as an energy matrix like Plato’s geometric forms. Because it is fear-based energy and not love based energy, it is mis-qualified energy. Collectively, this unique collection of all of our separate selves is called the ego. Since energy cannot be created or destroyed, we carry these energy matrices, these separate selves with us until they are transmuted into higher energies by us.

These separate selves (the ego) are what make up the personality of the carnal self versus the Spirit which is undivided and which manifests the fruit of the Spirit: unconditional love, joy, peace. This is easy to see when you look at what it is that makes one TV comedy character different from another. Like on “The Office” what makes Michael unique from Dwight or Jerry unique from George on Seinfeld.

When the physical body dies, of course the conscious you goes on to a spiritual dimension together with the “soul”. The energy we mis-qualified still exists as well as the subconscious aspects of our beings, (our sense of identity, our world view, our God view), our beliefs, our fears, our emotions: all of the elements that define our personality and response to life. All of these stay with us through multiple embodiments until we let them go and transmute the mis-qualified energy

What happens if lifetime after lifetime we pursue the spiritual path? We raise our consciousness. One by one , through honest self-observation we observe our thoughts, feelings and actions and expose the illusions and the separate selves behind them and let them die. As a result, we mis-qualify less and less energy becoming less burdened and more free. We begin to co-create in oneness with our I AM Presence more and more with the pure, high vibration light of our I AM Presence and our light is multiplied and the light energy we mis-qualified through fear is transmuted and returned to its high state of vibration. And at some point all (or most of) the mis-qualified energy is transmuted and we have consciously chosen to let all of the elements of the ego, (the separate selves and illusions) die leaving only the pure conscious you which is now more than it was when it descended, multiplied through all of the experiences on earth.

[Wonderer]

The life force that is inner light crowned and interactive with the spirit and spiritual in other life forms. This is based upon a triune being interpretation. It's a feeble attempt to explain but it's a start

[Ciona]

The etheric body is an exact replica of the physical body.
Your physical body is your temporal aspect.
Your nervous system is in conjunction with your kundalini energy as your etheric body clears itself from the programming/imprints.

Every chakra in your system is an exact match to the equivalent body parts and state they are in at any given present moment and the way this relates to soul is that each is an expression of multi-dimensional personality & awareness expressed in form identity which is, as Rah nam said, i.e. a unit of consciousness.

*Temporal by definition as relating to time; being contained within linear time, and no reference whatsoever to 'secular as opposed to spiritual', by my definition.

[Folong]

Soul and Science are different thing because people watch everything in science because they use it and working with them soul we can feel and believe because it is our inner energy

[DavidHenson]

Originally Posted by chandersanja

How can we define soul in scientific terms?

First we would define it and possible variations in application. The etymology would be crucial. The original applications had to do with binding. Superstitious people believed that binding the wrists and hands of the deceased would prevent harm from the dead. That's very primitive and difficult to source.

The word itself has to do with water for the same reason. People believed the soul was, upon leaving the body at death, confined in the nearest body of water, like a sea or lake.

Plato, quoting Socrates said of the soul (Greek ψυχή psykhe) "that death is the separation of the soul from the body" ​- [Phaedo (64C, 105E]

The Bible writers didn't believe that. To them, the soul was the life of any breathing creature. Human or animal. The soul is mortal, destructible. (Ezekiel 8:4; Matthew 28:10)

In the summer of 332 BCE Alexander the Great was conquering the world and was welcomed into the Temple of Jerusalem and shown the Biblical prophecies of his conquest. (See Alexander the Great in the Temple of Jerusalem, the 1736 painting by Sebastiano Conca). His influence was tremendous, even in Israel. The Jews adopted many of the teachings of Greek philosophers like Plato and Socrates. Later, in 325 CE the Christians would do the same under the influence of Constantine the Great.

So, the tradition of the immortal soul comes from Greek philosophy rather than the Bible. In a literal sense it is the life. The blood. Life and blood we can attest to scientifically speaking, but the supernatural concept of the soul from Greek philosophy can't be tested by science.