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Old 23-01-2021, 08:42 PM
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About ‘techniques’, at the risk of being singled out as the nerd in the herd, I’d say that all practices imply an ego (identity) doing and therefore, by pursuing that programmed activity, we remain in a hypnotic trance orchestrated by the ego, which we ourselves feed by taking charge, as it were.

Who is the entity seeking attainment?

The meditation ‘practices’ are steps ... interim steps, until meditation becomes an ever present flowing orientation, just like our breath ... which we don’t breathe ... we are being breathed. The same applies to the energy path, chakras, kundalini, consciousness expansion into the void etc.
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But yes, there's practice and being and the techniques, if exercised properly and diligently, should lead from one to the other.

Much has been written about this question of practices vs presence. Until presence becomes a choiceless state there is still an ego trying to be present which is just another practice and a form of seeking attainment.

When presence is a choiceless state we can still do practices simply for the enjoyment of doing them.

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Old 23-01-2021, 09:32 PM
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You can taste sweet nectar in your throat, flowing freely down from your head through your neck ...
Deep silence can expand our consciousness, ...
It is a relationship, it is not a mechanical thing.
We are talking about connecting with a living presence.
It is the most intimate experience a human being can have.
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Except I'm sure he stole them from something I said!!!! Kidding.
(You said them more eloquently, poetically.)
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Old 23-01-2021, 10:28 PM
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Much has been written about this question of practices vs presence. Until presence becomes a choiceless state there is still an ego trying to be present which is just another practice and a form of seeking attainment.

When presence is a choiceless state we can still do practices simply for the enjoyment of doing them.

Peace

I find resting in awareness (also known as choiceless awareness, just sitting, do nothing) a great practice to cultivate that state of being. Another practice that's complimentary and reinforcing is the Karma Yoga practice of Work as Witness. Its beauty is it can be practiced throughout the day and in the midst of all activity whether physical or mental. Find that same "space" of resting in awareness and from it simply realize one is not the doer of action but its witness.
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Old 24-01-2021, 12:27 AM
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For me the simplest techniques are the best.
Ditto to the power of 10, here.
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Old 24-01-2021, 08:37 PM
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For you, maybe.

For me, different.

Do what feels best, and most natural. Try them all.
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Old 26-01-2021, 08:45 PM
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For you, maybe.

For me, different.

Do what feels best, and most natural. Try them all.

Good advice, as long as you can be calm enough to actually 'feel' it, rather than 'think' about feeling it.

If you can't, at the start, then you need to stick to 'technique', to turn down your ego, your hyper arousal, until you can be calm, until you can be SELF possessed, rather than possessed by self...

Lots of technique has become a philosophy in this day and age, instead of what it really is - a set of training wheels, some scaffolding to steady the mind and give you confidence to preserve, so you don't wallow about, zoning out and falling asleep like a fool.

Many folks even think talking about it is doing it, in some way they will eventually understand 'logically' what that Zen Koan means, rather than than one sunny day actually 'experiencing' what it means.. experience your mind actually stopping.

Then soon enough you realise all spirituality is a 'form of feeling' and all 'thinking about it' is just jerking off. As they say - Love yourself, Don't give a F*ck, and Look Good, and you will be fine.
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Old 30-01-2021, 06:31 PM
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I've been using guided meditation. I feel much more at peace and grounded. I absolutely love Tibetan singing bowls. I use them for my affirmation/ mantra's
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I have tried many meditation methods over the years.
Some one is great, others less.
However I believe, stating Osho, "if you are following a meditation method, you are not meditating".
Namely I believe that blanking the mind is the true meditation.
It's so difficult though.
I have done several Vipassana retreatments in South East Asia, I still fight with holding my mind blank. From 30 seconds to 4 minutes, then thoughts come.
Only twice it happened something extraordinary: I sat, blanked the mind and then people in the meditation hall were stood up... I thought "what is happening?" , I checked my watch and one hours was gone in a blink of eye.
When you sit and you follow asleep , you realize that in the moment you wake up (most of the time when you are about losing balance). But those two times, it was different, I didn't fall asleep.

Who has experienced that?
What meditation practice do you prefer?
What would you suggest me to improve my blanking mind lasting?

Hi, I used to have trouble focusing my mind as well but I used this free meditation technique that helped me meditate so much easier, now I'm able to relax and focus on manifesting everything I want much easier. It really helped me out a lot and I hope it will inspire and empower you too.

Search for meditationtechniques2021.com! I hope this helps!
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