afterlife or Heaven - what's the difference?

Heaven or afterlife? I say it’s the same thing, at least in the sense that Heaven is made up of dark matter and when we die, our consciousness reverts back to dark matter. Maybe there is part of the dark matter realm that is not Heaven. I guess that’s open to argument. But I really wanted to comment to say that I don’t like the term “afterlife”. I think of Heaven as real life - and this world as pre-life. We weren’t created for this world. We were created for Heaven, but God saw He couldn’t trust us, so He sent us here to learn and develop. That’s why we view God as a father figure and why we refer to our planet as our Mother Earth. She is essentially a womb for God’s children to grow and develop. We don’t die and go to Heaven. We are born into Heaven. We are delivered from evil. It’s no wonder God is so patient and forgiving with us. How can He expect better from us when we haven’t even been born yet?!

On a side note, this means Born Again Christians are right. The only way into Heaven is to be born again. Too bad they misunderstand exactly what that means.

[AnotherBob]

I highly recommend the series of Q & A on the Afterlife on YouTube by Jurgen Ziewe, the pre-eminent researcher & experiencer in this field. He catalogues the various levels, etc. in a clear and solid presentation, including the darker lower astral (near earth realms), the usual place/realm most humans go, the upper astral (super dimensions), and beyond the astral, where the actual "Heaven" can be found.

[Rah nam]

The so-called afterlife is a false premise, and so is heaven.

So,Rah nam,tell us about the so called afterlife.

[bobjob]

As so often we're confounded by words and meanings but I'm heartened to see others using "so-called" in front of Heaven and Hell.

There are no widely agreed definitions for those words. Anything offered as a definition will be rejected by others. I won't use either word because neither has any helpful meaning for me.

It seems many don't understand life, death and what follows, stuff I see as fundamental. Ideas are what they've been taught in school and their churches. And that would be fine if those who teach actually understood what they were talking about!

Do you know this old saying? The blind leading the blind - so apt.

Of that we can agree on bobjob.

[Rah nam]

We existed before we came into this life, and we will exist when we leave this life, on many levels of existence.
To go into them would be pointless, after all, incarnation and reincarnation will change very soon.

According to my information, what is called astral realm, and many understand different levels of astral, will not exist any longer.

The non-physical earth realm is in the process of being removed as I write this.
I simply can not see, how we can see our existence after this life as a life after life. I know humans like to simplify and generalise everything, specially if they don't understand it.

Rah nam,I was joking with my earlier post. You know I take all your post's seriously and hold respect for you but now you've got me worried.

[Lord_Viskey]

sounds like somebody is predicting that its about time (no pun intended) for all these temporal realms to finally get cleaned up so we can be what we were always meant to be.

[BigJohn]

........... which is?