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Old 28-11-2021, 06:25 PM
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It is a tree-planting-fun-day with storytelling dancing at the end methinks.
But yes, those are performances.
No, I don’t think so. The tree seedlings were perhaps donated and the Ferals are volunteers.. So, they just made a festive day out of it.

Good to know.
Hippie culture can get weird, in my NOT so humble opinion.
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Old 28-11-2021, 10:59 PM
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Good to know.
Yep. Those dances were just locals expressing thanks for the trees.
The other stuff is called “Secret Sacred” … One is not even permitted to talk about them let alone sell them for money. Simply not done.

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Had wondered what that curious looking old didge sounded like:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKjhFu7uzd0

Never had Didgeridoo Sound Healing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ksPEyFW95A

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Byron Bay Spirit Festival:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3FieM-eRFE
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Hippie culture can get weird, in my NOT so humble opinion.
No doubt some of the events would be great. Some of that group-think/vibe-mould makes me uncomfortable.

Blues Fest:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ag5ij9QAIeE
And tipis – great!
They will not turn one into an Amerind though.
https://rainbowtipis.weebly.com/

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Old 28-11-2021, 11:40 PM
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Alright let me throw this vid. at you.
Art In Motion presents Lakota Medicine Man Pete Catches: "Walks With Fire"24 mins.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsk6sBdpEBs&t=1140s

here is a man trying to start a rehab center for his people.
I believe all the singing and ritual acts are for the Blessing of the rehab center.
If you notice the crowd seems to be of mixed races and for the most part very respectful except some stirring in the backgrounds.(or camera flashes)
Could they all be more focused in prayer toward the goal of Blessing the rehab center? Sure, but at least they are not terribly distracting.
Which I do find in the hippie type circle's.
I will just stay clear of the energies that I find distracting and many of the Native Spiritual people have been offended at some of the display's of silliness.
To the point they have put out orders of banning Non-Natives from most Ceremonies and many other restrictions.(Especially Lakota ceremonies)
All done out of concern for the ways coming back to their people correctly and not twisted into this Alternative Spirituality.
It really is all very confusing. Especially when I know the true teachings are to be shared with all races and prophecy is told of the Great coming together of all the races.
It just gets very disheartening at times.
Especially when people are drinking and drugging themselves to death.

P.S.
I certainly don't mean all hippie/Alternatives are distractions.
But there is a anything goes, anytime spirit some have and yet
some how I can't put my finger on it exactly.
Also I am reminded that they are my Brothers and Sisters among the two legged.

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Old 29-11-2021, 04:18 PM
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I believe I am in agreement to this portion of the Celtic belief system also.
Or at least it peaks my interest to consider them more deeply.
Even as far as to look into Ogham and Triads more.
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To the Celts and other Indo-European people, the mind had a higher and lower function. In one consideration of the Ogham and the Dúile they have been partitioned into the above referenced states between action and spirit, at the dividing line between the Moon and the Sun. The Moon rules emotion, life force and the automatic responses of the body. It also rules, instinct, subconsciousness and intuition. The Sun OTOH governs image, self-esteem, consciousness, deductive reasoning and outward perception. Beyond them are the Stars and the Sky that connect us to the Gods and the Infinite Ones.

EDIT: A bit more of the Celtic traditions that peak my interest even more:
Every stream and hill had a story about the deities and the ancestors. The Land was a Goddess and also the living history of the People.
Gor is the essence of being dedicated to the tribe and the center of warmth, which is the heart and the hearth fire.

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Old 29-11-2021, 07:08 PM
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I'm liking how this guy's mind works, interpreting an old story of the Brú na Bóinne
Celtic Source: Brú na Bóinne (Newgrange)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AfGwjT7XgQ

It would have been nice if he correlated the triad of the 3 spirals and the Winter solstice of the day between Life and Death bringing about a New Birth.
Well another day maybe. Or maybe he has and I am just slow.
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Old 29-11-2021, 09:38 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsk6sBdpEBs&t=1140s
here is a man trying to start a rehab center for his people.
I believe all the singing and ritual acts are for the Blessing of the rehab center.
I’m sure it was an excellent idea and a good heart intention born out of a situation need.

Did that rehab centre manifest, eventuate? If so, how is it going?

If that rehab centre was a vision from “Spirit Design”- then even if the logical mind would have seen it an impossible accomplishment, no number of obstacles would stand in the way of “Spirit Design” as it would be as good as done from the very start.

I don’t know ImthatIm.
Whether the ‘healer’ is a boastful live advertisement of his/her talents/abilities or a good, humble person not talking about his/her accomplishments – they kinda mount to the same thing – the definitions of “I”.
Neither of those are definitions of “Spirit Design” imo.
And the 'healer' witnessing the unfolding of that Design happening could potentially act in any number of unpredictable ways, even as a "village idiot"- what not.

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Old 29-11-2021, 09:50 PM
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I don't know how it is going but they at least have a website.
http://www.ocetiwakan.org/

I've never met the man, I have heard good things like he was well respected on his rez.
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Old 29-11-2021, 11:08 PM
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I don't know how it is going but they at least have a website.
http://www.ocetiwakan.org/
Sounds good.
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I've never met the man, I have heard good things like he was well respected on his rez.
Yeah. He gave a genuine expression.

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Then again in general like ... (and not about the person above)^
Anything could be anything at any time. The truth of a situation could be anything.

Generally speaking ... it would be a mistake to think Indigenous have the answers thus underestimating New Agers.

A story comes to mind, where this New Ager willing to learn healing does so attending Indigenous healer’s workshops.
At a large healers gathering/conference – at one point - this New Ager and the New Ager’s “Idol” are alone, when a person with a medical emergency comes in looking for help. The “Idol” makes diagnosis as “xy” and says to the New Ager: “You deal with it” – and bolts.

The New Ager feeling with hands …. finds out … “xy” is wrong diagnosis – it is “z” that is the problem. Gives “z” some hands-on energy healing and the patient recovers.

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The story sounded “Spirit-Designy” to me.
By a situation play, or being “check-mated” by the situation this New-Ager-healer-to-be had to discover/connect with his/her own ability to heal on-the-spot.

Did the “Idol” bolt, because in truth he/she is a scam artist or because she/he was willing to act out the “Design” even by acting the non-healer-when-put-on-that-situation-spot ….? To help the student - who was ready?

I do not know – I wasn’t there.

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Old 30-11-2021, 02:58 AM
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Did the “Idol” bolt, because in truth he/she is a scam artist or because she/he was willing to act out the “Design” even by acting the non-healer-when-put-on-that-situation-spot ….? To help the student - who was ready?
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That's the wonderful thing about Spirit Design.
It usually is not predictable and many people can share in some needed lessons.
Maybe a healer needs some humble pie and a new ager gets to find their gift.
I never assume anybody has control over spirit.
The most unexpected things can blow your mind in some of the weirdest ways.
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Old 30-11-2021, 06:00 AM
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I believe I am in agreement to this portion of the Celtic belief system also.
Or at least it peaks my interest to consider them more deeply.

Every stream and hill had a story about the deities and the ancestors. The Land was a Goddess and also the living history of the People.
Gor is the essence of being dedicated to the tribe and the center of warmth, which is the heart and the hearth fire.
Listening to Celtic harp still gives me the feeling of connection with the leafy forests & meadows and the magic of it all. It is beautiful and I love it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCDANDX8J4I
Clannad:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHGXbSe9qxM

I just cannot really relate to the European Megalith agricultural culture, nor the Indo-European storylines. From a hunch you ImthatIm can perhaps track those down to their source/heart/centre.
Besides; - Sun I think for us was/is feminine & the Moon masculine … (same as Central Australian belief).

I think this Komi hunting calendar of 9 hunting seasons talks to me more about ancestors (though 'we' observed 8 seasons):
https://www.euronews.com/media/downl...b21-260514.jpg

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Example of Aboriginal Seasons:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51r81VCLyGk

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