Indigenous Spirit of All colors

[sentient]

Originally Posted by ImthatIm

Oh yeah. That music maybe should have been called "Shaman calling a lover".

In his wispy daydreams lol.
He really does not know "shamanism", had he known, his integrity would not have allowed him to call it as such.
He made the word meaningless.

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Originally Posted by sentient

Animal imitations (gran was excellent at that), clay bird whistles … and I am back in my childhood.
(Do you know what I mean?) To me that is very ‘shamanic’. LOVE IT.

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[gran was excellent at that]
Your gran sounds like she nourished you in a wholesome way.
Animals are big medicine and responsible for our survival and teaching man how to live.
We would have died off long ago without our symbiotic relationships.(IMO)
I feel a similar way with plant and rock people also.


(Do you know what I mean?)
Yep, I get the other-world vibe like the music is piercing the veil of the Spirit world
and stirring the soul/spirit for a journey.And other such wordless stirrings.

Originally Posted by sentient

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZA...eQUMd84GDc26EA
and he is loving it!
I don’t know – I still like him lolol. At least with him stating his opinions so straight, you know where you stand.

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Yeah,like in the first minute of this vid.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2TVpq8lj6w&t=326s

Originally Posted by sentient

From a HG to pastoralist/herder, there was a mentality change and people became more warlike, patriarchal, whatnot … just like there will probably be a mentality change with the Casinos.
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I think the mentality changed with the horse/hearding culture and wheel culture, then bronze and iron.All these technological breakthroughs led to
the ability and need to extend territory with the ability to grow in numbers.
Which also would lead to superior warlike tactics and advantages.
Then come the bigger boats.sheesh!!!!

Skydaddy(Dyeus) let the horse people ride like the wind.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIfB1LI79OQ

Then there are some that believe the mushroom cultures allowed peoples mind to expand and grow.Then of course there is the licking of the frog!

[sentient]

Originally Posted by ImthatIm

(Dyeus) let the horse people ride like the wind.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIfB1LI79OQ

Listening to that video makes me realize why the Scandinavian side of things is a total blank to me.
I cannot comprehend it – hardly anything sparks mental associations …

Originally Posted by ImthatIm

Then there are some that believe the mushroom cultures allowed peoples mind to expand and grow.Then of course there is the licking of the frog!

Ha ha. I did watch this video and thought: “Good god – don’t tell me we used to lick or smoke toads as well!” lol. (But I don’t think so)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOFSX6nezEY

Then again, if one has a friend or a relative on ice or heroin looking like a skeleton with scabs, one would do anything.
@ 3:07 the patient sounds like an “Aztec Death Whistle”, maybe culturally he thought he was supposed to sound like that (?) lol.

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Originally Posted by ImthatIm

Yeah,like in the first minute of this vid.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2TVpq8lj6w&t=326s

Lolol. That was priceless, him being Irish as well. “My cousin Finn, he bought a carnyx, and that’ll be the last noise you’ll hear, I’m telling you.”
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[sentient]

Originally Posted by ImthatIm

Animals are big medicine and responsible for our survival and teaching man how to live.
We would have died off long ago without our symbiotic relationships.(IMO)
I feel a similar way with plant and rock people also.

Yes, exactly … and “shamanic music” as I understand it, is about reflecting the natural environment.
(Signature “Shaman Call” especially @2:36 – 2:50)

And ..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9ANQbGjplE

Is the difference “modal” vs “harmonic”?
Like the traditional Japanese music, which has all these notes, plus quarter notes, sudden silent stops and dissonant, odd sounds … can really affect one’s sense of space.

Western music in turn is all about harmonics, consonant chords, that to me speaks of sameness, uniformity … of mainstream culture that 'kills diversity'.

But nature is not like that. Everything in nature is doing its own thing, has its own sound.
Hence, I thought the “Mystic music of the Maya” did an excellent job.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWjOaZFXo3s
That video really expands my sense of space – or 'field of hearing', where all the sounds happening stand out as ‘equal’ yet different …
The 'consonance' being in the unstated, expanded space.

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[sentient]

Got to take a break from the board for awhile.
So, thanks again ImthatIm. Learned a lot.

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Is this the most beautiful flute or what:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qVXGrab_fE

Is it the flute or the player, which makes the sound genuine/real.
How simple, how effective:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJUfcIAwlC0

Locals here seem to be doing these "minor pentatonic scale" bamboo flutes.
Maybe an idea for the covid-lock-downs.

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[Miss Hepburn]

Please remember the Admins requested 2-3 sentences when quoting others.
Thanks.
Putting this on every current thread.

[sentient]

Have had a LOT to deal with of late, hence the need to take a break from the board.

Had a look at the toad venom experiences, including Mike Tyson:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYcnaYEzX7Y

These experiences REALLY do seem to mimic REAL shamanic experiences, except the REAL Shamen do not need psychedelics, and it has led me to realize why they had called these people using Fly Agaric, Peyote or the Toad as LESSER Shamen. There actually is a world of (energetic) difference.

The point being is that our “Reality Orientation” was already as though we had had these DMT realizations, and I cannot be a hypocrite here, because Ancestors did use psychedelics and had spread that “Gospel of Reality" as the “TRUTH of REALITY”. And once you start to live that truth, Karma takes hold.

And you do experience this. When you have a NONDUAL “Silent Communication” …(with) someone, the ‘persona’, the ‘character’ you represent or the ‘cultural ID’ … feels AS FAKE AS … making you EXTREMELY SHY to express it because you know it is a LIE - & here you do need an Elder as to show how to combine, reconcile the two … the not two …

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[sentient]

Even though from the NONDUAL perspective – the ‘Cultural IDs’ are a LIE, Falsehood, Not Real …

NEVERTHELESS ….. curiously enough, it is the Oldest HG Cultures on Earth – the Hunter Gatherers who actually acknowledge this - the rest of the World seems to take this FAKE ID for ‘REAL’ and not know the difference.

I used to imagine all genuine ‘natives’ to be nondual, but the solid conceptual/political IDs, have made me depressed and distressed.


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