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Old 21-01-2024, 09:51 AM
weareunity weareunity is offline
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Hello.

We may not accept and put into use understanding/teaching available to all simply because that understanding /teaching does not fit in with our personal ambitions. ---not because we do not understand.

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Old 21-01-2024, 10:37 AM
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Sky. I love your “well balanced comments IMO

Weareunity……”In discussing this topic---how great is the danger that the desire to feed any personal ambitions of wishing to be considered important/elite may cause us to pursue the historically long established method of doing so by means of hinting/stating that we are somehow the custodian/mouthpiece of information which is not available to others?

Yes exactly. I have been saying much the same thing to Molearner on the other thread.

I feel it’s a bit like saying to a homeless/hungry man…………hey I know where to find a table full of food and you can eat whatever you want and when he asks you where it is, you tell him………oh no you have to sacrifice your life first cos it’s a secret and only available to the few.

Why on earth would anybody do that. Especially Jesus.
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Old 21-01-2024, 12:31 PM
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Hello Redchic12.
I had not read that--so thanks for the information.

Hello all.

Expanding on #11 of this thread.

It is of course a personal choice whether or not we "only" ignore teaching/understanding because it does not fit in with our personally serving ambitions. This does not remain a personal matter however if we choose instead to distort/alter such teaching/understanding in order to make it serve personal ambitions.

To do our best to discern if and when the above is happening/has happened is, as can be imagined, really difficult. ---we hope to be able to rely in large part upon --by their deeds you shall know them--with such deeds themselves firmly wrapped in the cloak of compassion and displaying all the characteristics of treating others as we would ourselves wish to be treated.

This is a simple measuring stick--some would understandably say simplistic. Perhaps it has to be just simple so as to be sure that it does not become so weighty that it can be used as a weapon of advantage and division.

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Old 21-01-2024, 01:02 PM
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Old 21-01-2024, 02:32 PM
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I feel it’s a bit like saying to a homeless/hungry man…………hey I know where to find a table full of food and you can eat whatever you want and when he asks you where it is, you tell him………oh no you have to sacrifice your life first cos it’s a secret and only available to the few.

Why on earth would anybody do that. Especially Jesus.

Well He wouldn't would He..... that would be sadistic.
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Old 21-01-2024, 03:02 PM
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I have asked this before, maybe on other forums, but I don't feel I ever understood the reasoning anyone gave.
Why would Jesus not want certain people to understand things?
Ideas?

Certain people are not suitable custodians for anything of great value. A basic verse for this is “God opposes the proud but gives grace to the humble.” Those with inflated egos will never be privy to enlightenment……the ego serves itself at the expense of others and this does not align with the Christian ideal…..FYI all IMO…….:)
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Old 21-01-2024, 03:07 PM
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the ego serves itself at the expense of others and this does not align with the Christian ideal…..FYI all IMO…….:)

Not if it's healthy/balanced and wholesome
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Old 21-01-2024, 03:15 PM
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Not if it's healthy/balanced and wholesome
Hahaha……only if it were something other than the ego…..:). If the ego is so good why are limitations of it necessary ?
Would restrictions on love or Spirit ever be recommended ?
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Old 21-01-2024, 03:26 PM
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Hello all.

In discussing this topic---how great is the danger that the desire to feed any personal ambitions of wishing to be considered important/elite may cause us to pursue the historically long established method of doing so by means of hinting/stating that we are somehow the custodian/mouthpiece of information which is not available to others?

so first i'll say it takes two people to get into that situation, the first withholds information and beats their chest and the second interprets that situation as them either having information (ooh ah), or more likely these days just being a rube and hinting at having information so they can beat their chest.

In my view, neither side is totally unaccountable for their activities in this regards.

But beyond that, the danger is always there if you are exploring something others can't or won't explore, that you will do as you've said and then they will react in some unbecoming way. And even if you do share openly, freely of what you know, they STILL may accuse of of hinting at stuff so that you can beat your chest.

It is just a fact of life that that is part of the life we live. HOWEVER, in my view this is more of a danger to the person who is beating their chest, because, stopping to withhold information and then proclaim how important you are (even in the most subtle ways like you've indicated) also brings you to a dead stop in terms of further exploration. At that point, all you've got is the information you've already got, and you are ready to spend the rest of your life beating your chest, so what point is there to going on?

As far as being unjustly accused of things one never actually did... that always seemed to me to be a way of reverse-beating of the chest. But that is just me...
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Old 21-01-2024, 03:29 PM
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Hahaha……only if it were something other than the ego…..:). If the ego is so good why are limitations of it necessary ? Would restrictions on love or Spirit ever be recommended ?

The limitations are referring to an 'Inflated ego' which obviously is not balanced/healthy nor wholesome... Imo only....
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