Ending capitalism is possible...

You are not alone, and a lot of people are actually working to make this happen. Here's a couple of sites you might enjoy.

This exposes the system, and how it came to be so unhealthy. http://divinecosmos.com/start-here/d...ancial-tyranny

There is also a lot of technology that was being blocked. Things like free energy and what not. The Keshe Foundation has a brilliant plan to get around the blocking. They've given their technology info to so many sources that it can't be stopped. They are also having a big meeting with many governments this month. http://www.keshefoundation.org/en/

This video outlines the problems with the systems we have. Basically, we don't actually live in capatilism, it's become a finacial tyrrany, where the people are slaves. Forced to work in jobs for most of their lives (many that are completely unneccessary) just to eat. The world and it's resources belong to everyone, and our system is not only unfair, it's completely unbalanced and unhealthy. The very few have become parasites, that are sucking the life out of the earth and the people. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEV5AFFcZ-s


We have all been programmed to think we need money. We don't, and the money we have is fiat money that is actually worthless. It's only worth is what we imagine it to have. We have been programmed to think everyone having food, clean water, shelter, clothes and such for "free" is socialism. This is rediculous. The worlds resources to not belong to the 1% elite and we have to work our asses off to "earn" them. They belong to everyone! The land does not belong to the rich, it doesn't "belong" to anyone. It's a living entity and should be treated with love and respect and nuturing. Okay, I'll stop ranting now.

[Chrysaetos]

Originally Posted by Podshell

I think innovation and progress will rapidly increase under a better system, take the patenting of inventions and getting them up and going into society for the benefit of all, the present system is based on selfishness and competition, money fame and fortune, the opposite of what it should be.

There is no progress and innovation without competition.

Originally Posted by Tezorian

Would you be willing to explain why there is no valid alternative for capitalism. This is nothing more than the "You're wrong! End of discussion!" comment. It does not contribute to this thread.

The other alternatives (communism, fascism, theocracy) have all proven without a shred of doubt to be the enemy of liberty, innovation, progress, and healthy competition.

Originally Posted by Newfreedom9

We have all been programmed to think we need money. We don't, and the money we have is fiat money that is actually worthless. It's only worth is what we imagine it to have.

So you live without money.. ok. I take it you are using the computer of someone else..

Originally Posted by Newfreedom9

We have been programmed to think everyone having food, clean water, shelter, clothes and such for "free" is socialism.

Welfare does not equate socialism.

[Podshell]

the system would be better without fake/imposed competition, with equal pay for instance we would get people who were better suited to specific jobs and not just there for the pay and position , their hearts would be in it.

[Chrysaetos]

Originally Posted by Podshell

the system would be better without fake/imposed competition, with equal pay for instance we would get people who were better suited to specific jobs and not just there for the pay and position , their hearts would be in it.

No..

With equal payment you prevent people from taking up responsible intelligent jobs. You are basically saying a toilet cleaner should get the same income as a doctor.

Some people work harder, take more time to study, have responsible jobs, and they deserve to be rewarded for that.

I have to disagree that there is no progress and innovation without competition. That's ridiculous! Different people have different motivations for what they do. Many people do things for the betterment of humanity without getting paid a dime.

Did you know that every alternative energy source that is more then 20% efficient is denied a patent because it would compete with what is on the market??? There is free energy technology available, but it's not in the best interests of the controllers to have everyone have free energy. But it's getting to the point where it can't be blocked any longer, thank God.

So competition, is no more then the people with power, theiving from the ones without so they build more and more power, control and wealth, feeding off everyone else. I don't want to live in a slave society anymore.

And yes, money is worth what people imagine it to be worth today. Tomorrow if someone went on the news and said the dollar has crashed it's no longer worth anything, everything would change. This is because it's not a hard asset. It's not gold or even furniture. It's a piece of paper, so it has no intrinsic value except what we place on it. And the Federal Reserve is not federal (it's a private corporation) and it has very little in reserve (the money is not gold backed anymore). So it is doomed to fail like any other fiat currency, because it's all a lie.

Banks can lend out way more then they have (90% more). So essentially they can lend you out nothing, and you have to pay interest on it. That's not a fair system, and it's not one in which people can get ahead. It's designed not to be, because other countries do not accept fiat money. China for instance doesn't loan us money for nothing. The people (and their estimated life's work) are held as surety for the loans. A birth certificate is worth so much, and it used as surety. Like this person will generate this amount of wealth over their lifetime. How can they make sure of this? Well, just raise house prices, lend them out pretend money which they have to pay back multiple times over 30 years, and you assure your slave will keep working. Also you have to make sure that they keep paying for utilities so you outlaw free energy and people catching rain water. You control the media (which they do), you control the food supply (which they do). And you must poison the water and food to keep everyone from waking up and seeing whats going on. You make sure health care doesn't cure anyone so people have to keep paying for that too. And on and on it goes. Our society is corrupt to the core because of "competition."

When everyone realizes we are all one, and what you do to another you do to yourself, all of this nonsense will end. We really do need no other law then the golden rule. We need no other motivation then the betterment of humanity, and our love for each other.

A toilet cleaner should get paid as much as a doctor. There are many people who want to be doctors, and love healing people. But who the heck wants to clean a toilet??? Doctor's get their reward with everyone they help. (Although in our society healthcare is a joke and hurts as many people as it helps, but ideally we should have doctors that cure patients and they should do it because they are helping people, not to make more money then their neighbor.)

[Podshell]

This is true, a cleaner is just as important, and they wont get away with as many mistakes as GPs make either!

[Chrysaetos]

Communists want an ''everyone equally poor'' society because they look with feelings of jealousy and resentment to those who are smarter then they are, to those who put effort into something. But no, there's no need to put effort into anything, let's all be the same eh and accept mediocrity. The fact that you call the link between competition and innovation ridiculous is telling enough of your level of ignorance about the world, of history and of societies today. Just as an illustration, what you use right now exists thanks to competition.

[Podshell]

Chrys

Thats the thing , we are not all the same, capitalism makes us think we can all be rich (the same), a trick which tempts our greed, but keeps us poor, and the rich comfy, we compete with each other , and work way too many hours.

I am of the mind that a God centred communal system would be ideal

[Chrysaetos]

Trying to make life "fair" and equal for each and everyone is going to be a massive failure. People are different, there's no such thing as fairness. What you guys want is eradicate difference.