Was Jesus a Socialist?

Originally Posted by sky123

Blessed is he who loves and does not therefore desire to be loved
Blessed is he who fears and does not therefore desire to be feared
Blessed is he who serves and does not therefore desire to be served
Blessed is he who behaves well toward others and does not desire that others behave well toward him
Because these are great things, the foolish do not rise to them

Blessed is he who loves without condition and therefore does not need condition to feel love.

Blessed is he who brings forth the Kingdom of Heaven within, and without, for there is where, and what, he has always, and will always, be.

I have a friend (no really that's not code for me) that is a rather devout and rather evangelical Christian (see, told ya, not me).

My friend is a charitable and giving sort of person, some might say too trusting and generous. He also has a strict code about not accepting charity for himself or for his family.

Is it not as important to be as generous in receiving as it is to be generous in giving?
Why, why not?

[sky]

Originally Posted by ketzer

Blessed is he who loves without condition and therefore does not need condition to feel love.

Blessed is he who brings forth the Kingdom of Heaven within, and without, for there is where, and what, he has always, and will always, be.

Well I'm glad you enjoyed it, it's rather wise....
Btw I'm sharing the cake, but only with myself ....

Originally Posted by sky123

Well I'm glad you enjoyed it, it's rather wise....
Btw I'm sharing the cake, but only with myself ....

Well then, now you can be equally generous in both giving and receiving, very wise Danial-san, you have achieved balance.

Though it is not exactly what I had in mind.

[sky]

Originally Posted by ketzer

Well then, now you can be equally generous in both giving and receiving, very wise Danial-san, you have achieved balance.

Though it is not exactly what I had in mind..

Perfect balance though I will share the Crumb's with my feathered friends.....

Originally Posted by Miss Hepburn

No more Buddhism, here.

Here, here. sky123 was saying the same a little while back.

And yes M'aams.

Originally Posted by sky123

Perfect balance though I will share the Crumb's with my feathered friends.....

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Originally Posted by ketzer

I have a friend (no really that's not code for me) that is a rather devout and rather evangelical Christian (see, told ya, not me).

My friend is a charitable and giving sort of person, some might say too trusting and generous. He also has a strict code about not accepting charity for himself or for his family.

Is it not as important to be as generous in receiving as it is to be generous in giving?
Why, why not?

In my experience of the truly spiritual, giving and receiving carries no weight. All is One. There is no attachment to either. Although I have seen each overweight heavily in their being in kindness.

[Amilius777]

I don't think Jesus could be placed in any construct of bubble of modern economics or living.

If he was born today he probably would be very left or even socialist. But probably have a lot of issues with the current trend of socialism. He was still a very religious man. He wasn't judgmental at all, but he'd still be a Traditionalist to whatever religion he was born into. He was a mystic on top of being a prophet and a spiritual master. Whatever religious tradition that reinforced his own oneness with God he woulda stuck with it, as he did with Judaism.

Jesus taught a more spiritual communism, Christ Consciousness. That we are all equal in the eyes of God and we are divine children of God and we all deserve our fair share and justice. But with justice there is mercy and compassion.

The kingdom of heaven is within. Evne when you die and go to what people call heaven or the other side, it doesn't mean you are completely in heaven. That's why souls reincarnate continously to work on lessons to become more and more perfected. Eternal heaven is not eternal until it's heaven all the way. When one has found complete happiness within and letting go of those attachments that hold us back

He would have gone with this premse which is Christ Consciousness and then taught an outer version of that for human society. But remember you can't have one without the other.

I tend to see alot of gurus and spiritual teachers nowadays think as long as you have the inner, the outer doesn't matter. This isn't true. The outer affects the inner and vice versa. This isn't a competition or war of flesh vs soul. We are the soul, yes and have a body. But the body and who you are on Earth is just as much of who you are on the inside. If this werent true then you can't explain the way many people turn out due to environment and upbringing despite how strong their sense of will is. We aren't split personalities. That is a mental disorder.

Jesus founded a "church'. That is a community of people living by the precepts and concept of Christ consciousness. He didn't call it that because they didn't have the word back then. He called it the "kingdom of heaven". But from this, yes early Christianity did look reminiscent of a more socialistic society than capitalistic. In fact the early Church and even into the Dark Ages had their own primitive version of a healthcare system.

Originally Posted by Miss Hepburn

No more Buddhism, here.

thank you! i actually checked to make sure this was christian board last night!