validity of channeled info

I've seen psychics and shamans over the years who tell me that their guides said this or that my guides said that. To me that seems a form of channeling. Sometimes this information feels true and is quite helpful, but other times it seems like it is really just the person's own opinion packaged as "channeled" information. I don't think they are being deliberately deceptive in the latter case, but it does make me question what channeled information to believe.

What do you all think?

[Gem]

It's not reliable information.

Most of it is a load of old carp. I have seen and been amongst the best over the last fourty years which gives me a very good idea as to what is and what isn't.
99.9% of the tripe and twaddle spouted by the wannabes would be laughable if it wasn't so serious a subject.

[Rah nam]

Be aware, whether someone channels, I have come across highly accurate channeled material, or someone criticizes all that is channel, it contains their own values, or the lack of it.

By the way, material from a psychic or medium is mostly not channeled.

Originally Posted by glenos

Most of it is a load of old carp. I have seen and been amongst the best over the last fourty years which gives me a very good idea as to what is and what isn't.
99.9% of the tripe and twaddle spouted by the wannabes would be laughable if it wasn't so serious a subject.

I concur. 100%!

[Chrysaetos]

Originally Posted by SunMist

What do you all think?

There are people out there who make money by deliberately lying.

But in most cases it's probably a form of self-delusion..
It's an easy trap to fall into, you might want to research Cold Reading and the Barnum Effect..

what about cult leaders that claim they do the same thing? and the people they take down that road that leads to a very bad ending for some. haven't several of them told their followers that they were the only ones that could "hear God, Jesus, Buddha, Allah" or whomever? what made these people follow them in blind faith?

I have a feeling a few times I was definitely encountering cold reading though I haven't read about the Barnum effect - guessing something about a sucker being born every minute?

So in the rare case where someone really is gifted enough to accurately communicate with guides on behalf of another how do you tell if they are genuine?

Originally Posted by earthprowler

what about cult leaders that claim they do the same thing? and the people they take down that road that leads to a very bad ending for some. haven't several of them told their followers that they were the only ones that could "hear God, Jesus, Buddha, Allah" or whomever? what made these people follow them in blind faith?

Lack of common sense, a lot of the time. But sometimes it's a genuine desire for a meaningful personal faith, and that gets preyed upon by the cult leader.

to me it's all about discernment.

When I was studying formally our teacher told us something that was pretty life changing and hard to believe. We then broke for lunch and she left the room. We were all talking about it discussing whether we believed it or not.

When she came back she told us this. If someone tells you something and it empowers you, believe it. If it takes your power away, drop it.

For me that works really well.

Who knows what is real channelling or not. But I know that if something I read or am told makes me feel bad I walk away. It may be their truth but it isn't mine as it serves no purpose to my growth.

My favourite one of these (sorry for the digress) is that we all have to work on our stuff and get it cleared by a certain time because there is going to be a mass ascension and those of us that haven't will get left behind.

How does that empower me? How does that help me grow?

It doesn't.

The same people then say that time is a man made thing and we can create time.

So telling me I need to work on my stuff and not slack off is fine as I have all the time I need to do all that I need to do. Now that empowers me and encourages me to stick with the plot :)