Killing insects

If you and your conscience are happy with that then good luck to you.

Originally Posted by alamode

This thread is about killing insects, well billions of insects are killed with insecticides and pesticides used throughout the world in order to grow human food. Agriculture involves killing hundreds of animals for the protection and maintenance of those crops. Hundreds of animals (gophers, rabbits, birds, insects, etc.) die each time a field of grains, beans, rice, soy and other vegetation is harvested. Multiply that by all the crop fields world-wide year-round and that equals billions of animals that die in order to grow crops for humans consumption for the billions of people that live on Earth. Plants that are harvested normally eat animals too (i.e. fossil-fuel derived fertilizers, blood and bones, manure, etc.) The soil eats animals too (millions of tiny organisms in every ounce of soil). The soil is a “Predatory” life form. All life forms must eat something that was once alive. So yes, if I live off of one cow for a year, my food for the year did a lot less killing than all the killing involved in eating plant foods.

What you describe is not necessary. It is the work of an over populous and greedy mankind. To grow one's own food one does not have to kill any animal. Some people just seem to delight in death. I am not one of them.

[alamode]

Originally Posted by Ecthalion

What you describe is not necessary. It is the work of an over populous and greedy mankind. To grow one's own food one does not have to kill any animal. Some people just seem to delight in death. I am not one of them.

If the food grower did not kill the rabbits, gophers, and any other animal seeking the food, there would be no food left for humans to consume due to the animal population growth becoming so cancerous and eating all the food that is grown. It is the absolute norm for food growers to kill animals who try to eat the crops. If no one killed the animals, all crops everywhere would be eaten by animals and humans would not be able to eat any of it. It's not about delighting in death. The Creator designed the world to feed off of other life as a beautiful system of predators, prey, consumers, and decomposers, as seen in nature, which is the way the world works.

Originally Posted by alamode

If the food grower did not kill the rabbits, gophers, and any other animal seeking the food, there would be no food left for humans to consume

Not so. There are other means of protecting your crop without the need to kill.

Originally Posted by alamode

due to the animal population growth becoming so cancerous and eating all the food that is grown.

if any animal has become cancerous in its population it is man.

Originally Posted by alamode

It is the absolute norm for food growers to kill animals who try to eat the crops.

Because a thing is the norm it does not make it right. Slavery was once the norm

Originally Posted by alamode

The Creator designed the world to feed off of other life as a beautiful system of predators, prey, consumers, and decomposers, as seen in nature, which is the way the world works.

The creator also gave us humans compassion and intelligence so that we could remove ourselves from this cycle of predator/prey. We do not have to kill.

[knightofalbion]

Originally Posted by alamode

The Creator designed the world to feed off of other life as a beautiful system of predators, prey, consumers, and decomposers, as seen in nature, which is the way the world works.

No He didn't. Genesis 1 v 29.

[alamode]

What non-killing ways can you protect your crops from animals which people currently aren't doing? Let's take gophers for example, the most common animal that is killed when growing crops. Do you have some kind of new invention that none of us have heard about for protecting crops from gophers?

[knightofalbion]

Originally Posted by alamode

What non-killing ways can you protect your crops from animals which people currently aren't doing? Let's take gophers for example, the most common animal that is killed when growing crops. Do you have some kind of new invention that none of us have heard about for protecting crops from gophers?

Fencing ...crop rotation...grain buffer strips... irrigation. All make gopher habitation preventable, unsustainable or unsuitable.

[knightofalbion]

Alamode: I looked up your page on NaturalNews...Could only find one article by you.

But a good quote - "Our purpose of incarnating is for loving others..." Wise words.
I certainly like the quote, though I have a problem squaring it with your killing animals without conscience stance and your killing unborn babies without conscience stance that I saw elsewhere.
Love does not seek to hurt and kill, but to care, serve and protect. Through understanding - and practice - of this we grow.

[linen53]

Thought of another scenario:

Mosquitoes. I got West Nile Meningitis and Encephalitis last year. If I had swatted that one tiny itsy bitsy mosquito I might not have had to go through that experience.

Originally Posted by linen53

If I had swatted that one tiny itsy bitsy mosquito....

Tiny to you perhaps, but the centre of the universe to itself.

Humans need to beware of arrogance. We are not the superior being. We do not have the right to take another's soul. IMO