The progress of spiritual thinking over history. - Page 3

BigJohn · #21 26-10-2021, 09:11 PM

hallow wrote "With this thread, I am just really curious about the roots of spirituality."

Look to the older if not oldest belief systems/religions for a possible answer. Many claim Animism is the root of many of today's religions and some claim Animism might be the oldest belief system/religion.

BigJohn · #22 26-10-2021, 09:12 PM

What would you do (I mean believe) if you were deep inside a cave and your light source went out? And then, all of a sudden, you could see everything in the cave?

hallow · #23 26-10-2021, 11:53 PM

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Many claim Animism is the root of many of today's religions and some claim Animism might be the oldest belief system/religion.

. I am going to look more into this. Seems interesting.

BigJohn · #24 27-10-2021, 05:34 AM

There is not much to read on Animism in the West, but in Asia: it permeates.

HITESH SHAH · #25 27-10-2021, 03:50 PM

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That's a really big jump - needs clarification on your part.

For God all species are similar. With the capability of language,logic,grammer,mathematics,algorithms,scie nce human species is privileged one. With all this privilege humans enjoy absolutely superior status. With this privileges comes fiduciary relationship other under privileged. Only spirituality can make one aware of such fiduciary relationship n duty with other species. With our kids who are weaker in many ways compared parents for a longer period,parents have fiduciary relationship. Even in animal world ,animals try to protect their children and feel fiduciary relationships in a limited way.

So if one does not like the burden of spiritual obligations, God is very loving n kind to give a specie in our next birth which does not carry all burdens of spirituality. That way he meets the preferences of all and maintains overall equilibrium.

Busby · #26 28-10-2021, 07:43 AM

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So if one does not like the burden of spiritual obligations, God is very loving n kind to give a specie in our next birth which does not carry all burdens of spirituality. That way he meets the preferences of all and maintains overall equilibrium.

If I understand rightly you are telling us that some of us can be reborn as animals/insects/even viruses. Or have I misunderstood?
Having a well-thumbed copy of 'The Tibetan Book of the Dead' your input interests me utterly.

Please expand your belief to our goodselves. That bit about equilibrium is also quite fascinating?

HITESH SHAH · #27 28-10-2021, 03:17 PM

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If I understand rightly you are telling us that some of us can be reborn as animals/insects/even viruses. Or have I misunderstood?
Having a well-thumbed copy of 'The Tibetan Book of the Dead' your input interests me utterly.

Please expand your belief to our goodselves. That bit about equilibrium is also quite fascinating?

You have interpreted rightly . Some of us can re-incarnate as animal .
Re-incarnation of souls is the basis on which I which I answer this question.
I understand Tibetan book of the dead is about helping and aiding those dead in further progress of their journey onwards . I dont know much about the book however .

Re-incarnation (and many other happenings in the world ) happens primarily based on following spiritual laws
1. law of attraction /repulsion
2. LAw of justice
3. Law of evolution (different than darvin evolution)
4. Law of universal necessity .

Universe's laws work on auto-pilot mode . Based on properties of our soul , and our deeds , we (our soul ) naturally gravitate towards the parents and species most suited for us after death in some time. God does not intervene arbitrarily as this is and it is acceptable to almost everyone . Despite all privileges of human life , human life too has its share of burdens which other species simply dont have like undergoing education for longer period , search and retaining partner , searching gainful employment , sustaining and nurturing family , abide social/legal norms etc) . So people feeling such burdens naturally develop the liking for a specie which does not have any of these burdens .

Though there are books on after-life in Hinduism also , my knowledge of it is very elementary because religion has to benefit individual and all individuals around now and forever in this life and after life . You can see after-life is just a miniscule portion of religion . So my concentration has been more on other diverse aspects of religion . Minute details like "Tibetan book of dead " may not be available with me and I think you too wont be expecting more detail knowing u & your views on religion .

Miss Hepburn · #28 28-10-2021, 05:03 PM

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Some of us can re-incarnate as animal .

Oh boy now we are getting into opinion stated as fact...a no-no on the Forum.
Tip: All you have to do is qualify it, as in ...''The TB of TD, says that..." or
"I believe..."

Thank you.

HITESH SHAH · #29 28-10-2021, 06:13 PM

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[color=Navy]Oh boy now we are getting into opinion stated as fact...a no-no

Ok. Let me be specific. After-life is a belief in all religions and accept it as indisputable fact.Now what soul does in afterlife is where people differ. Thats fine. So i will qualify this post as reincarnation beliefs in hinduism as the basis of my assertion. Hope that clarifies it .

Still_Waters · #30 28-10-2021, 09:12 PM

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Based on properties of our soul , and our deeds , we (our soul ) naturally gravitate towards the parents and species most suited for us after death in some time.

That is my understanding as well.

Here is a link to an article randomly selected about 5 religions that believe in animal reincarnation.

https://www.joincake.com/blog/animal-reincarnation/