Look at the madness going on...

Originally Posted by bobjob

In case anyone's confused, I wasn't the 'bob' he was addressing!

Gee, bob, I thought you were really getting around there for a minute...hope you self-quarantined before meeting old Don there

[bobjob]

Originally Posted by linen53

My husband had a trip planned to go fishing in Alaska. He and his buds had it all lined up before the virus came to America. Then he found out they would have to be quarantined 14 days upon arrival in Alaska before they could go on the boat they had commissioned. They had to cancel the entire trip because of that. Maybe next year.

I'm sure if they had gone and ignored the quarantine they would have had the same result as the guy in Hawaii.

I admire his taste - I take Buds with me on trips too! Especially in Canada where booze is so spendy....

[Altair]

Originally Posted by janielee

10,000 is a ridiculous number when even the flu kills 30,000 Americans and that's obvious - so I was just questioning your intellectual rigor and acumen actually. Now I see how you apply your critical thinking and objective data analysis, I have to say that I'm disappointed but not surprised at all.

CDC notes that American deaths are almost 200,000 - more to come unfortunately. Your attempt to deflect through an insinuation is also duly noted.

JL

You're a naive person and can't understand that people with underlying health issues are counted as a covid death, even if they tell it in your face, and even if there isn't any evidence that covid is actually the cause of death.

In such a short time, and with all the hysteria involved officials are pressured to write down 'covid'.
That's perfectly reasonable even if one discounts all ''alternative'' information that the MSM ignores.

But you go and keep ignoring that and rely on other people to think for you. Listening to authorities of any kind seems to be your thing anyway.

[BigJohn]

Originally Posted by Altair

You're a naive person and can't understand that people with underlying health issues are counted as a covid death, even if they tell it in your face, and even if there isn't any evidence that covid is actually the cause of death.

In such a short time, and with all the hysteria involved officials are pressured to write down 'covid'.
That's perfectly reasonable even if one discounts all ''alternative'' information that the MSM ignores.

But you go and keep ignoring that and rely on other people to think for you. Listening to authorities of any kind seems to be your thing anyway.

If a person drives a vehicle under a tractor trailer and dies immediately and the autopsy finds out the person has the COVID-19 virus, the person will be counted as dying from COVID-19.

Where I live, the State ALSO considers a person to have died from COVID-19 if the main reason is not COVID-19 but is the second, third and I an mot sure, 4th cause of death.

[bobjob]

Originally Posted by janielee

Gee, bob, I thought you were really getting around there for a minute...hope you self-quarantined before meeting old Don there

brrrrr - What a thought! Visiting with Teflon Don! brrrrr....

[bobjob]

Please keep in mind that Covid-19 isn't just about deaths. Deaths, however, are recorded differently in many countries. It ain't just about America. There's a big world outside the borders of the United States of America.

Originally Posted by Altair

You're a naive person and can't understand that people with underlying health issues are counted as a covid death, even if they tell it in your face, and even if there isn't any evidence that covid is actually the cause of death.

In such a short time, and with all the hysteria involved officials are pressured to write down 'covid'.
That's perfectly reasonable even if one discounts all ''alternative'' information that the MSM ignores.

But you go and keep ignoring that and rely on other people to think for you. Listening to authorities of any kind seems to be your thing anyway.

You understand nothing, Altair, and yet you believe you do. That's far more dangerous than my approach - which is relying on multiple sources of independent information and verification.

If you like to use political mouthpieces as fact, that's your prerogative, but before you go lecturing people on your position, make sure you are actually credible yourself. The fact you conveniently ignore anything that goes against your position is evident. "CDC SAID there are only 10,000 deaths"

If Covid-19 is a cause it is linked as a Covid-19 related death. The rest of these stories are just hyperbole and false narratives, designed to buy into the "anti-MSM" hysteria that you and other buy into. The White House doctor is actually Dr Fauci, by the way, until he refused to go along with politics, and kept to science (and is demonized as a result, conveniently)

The funniest part is how you claim to know what the CDC says is the deaths on record, and that you can't extrapolate that 10,000 is a ridiculous number for a disease that has a 5x + death rate, as noted by Donald J Trump and many others.

Your sense of intellectual superiority is unmatched, but unfounded, in my opinion.

As to me relying on authorities, lol, if you mean as opposed to fringe hysteria, and ignorance, then yes, happily.

JL

Originally Posted by bobjob

brrrrr - What a thought! Visiting with Teflon Don! brrrrr....

Apparently he is quite charming in person. I know someone who used to aspire to live in the Trump Towers in NYC as a symbol of prestige. I asked "Why would you want to do that?" lol I always felt it was fake and cheesy, but apparently for some it's aspirational. The world is truly diverse

[Clover]

Hi,

I am closing this thread. It's political fodder and unproductive. Also, this thread has been reported a number of times which shows me its not what members what to see on here and its against forums policies anyways. Unplug and get some fresh air. :)




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