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Old 01-04-2022, 03:38 PM
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For those of you that may wonder about Native Spirit’s post … someone posted after post #512 and was off topic.
Who of us haven’t sent or posted some pasted text to the wrong recipient?
Later that same day Miss H deleted the post.
Native Spirit’s post is in reference to that.

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Old 04-04-2022, 12:57 PM
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Considerations 126 …

Life Inside / Outside Disneyland …

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Let’s just imagine … a huge area of land in the world … perhaps a bit separated from the rest of the world by oceans or mountain ranges … perhaps Australia or the Arctic … setting aside the climatic conditions … and within this massive acreage we would put fantastic versions of Disneyland, Universal Studios, Europa-Park, Six Flags, Cedar Point, and any other major amusement park you could discover. They were all gathered together in this single area.

Within this major Lower Worlds Amusement Park … all necessary education facilities, hospitals, and housing developments were combined into the Park. People were born and raised, lived, educated, frolicked about, and completed their lifetimes within the boundaries of the Park. It was a complete and established “world” of its own.

No one knew of any other world. Crews worked to provide all foods, underground power stations provided all necessary energy, massive underground control centers regulated and dispersed attention, maintenance, and all upgrades. People simply traveled about all day long enjoying the rides and being engrossed by the exhibits. After any number of years in any particular area … one could simply move to another area or “theme” and begin again.

It was nothing but one huge euphoria. There might be a bit of tension when your favorite ride breaks down or is down for maintenance but there is enough variety available to offset any real anxiety. It was all just one big amusement. The “outside” or the “beyond” was unknown. All the individual has to do is work … if that individual is in the position to have to do that … and enjoy the rides. Whatever suits their fancy … there is a ride to enhance that.

Why would anyone leave? Why would anyone want to? And if they did … where would they go?

Welcome to the Lower Psychic Worlds. The conclusion that some of our “rides” here in the Lower Psychic Worlds are not so enjoyable … is of no significance.

An entire set of “worlds” or “dimensions” or “planes” designed with a specific atomic pattern … the incorporation of the negative element so that form and structure could be devised … and one can just stay within these worlds … forever.

Again … why would anyone want to leave?

Answer … they wouldn’t. Within its own set of parameters … to stay within the Lower Psychic Worlds is just fine for millions of lifetimes … literally. It makes no difference if one “believes” or not … the overall design prevails. And since everyone is simply engaged in their own amusements … joy or fun or bliss or ecstasy or whatever … is the expected lifestyle.

If anyone ever slowed down long enough to consider what would be “beyond” all of this … the entire “bliss” or “ecstasy” would just *have* to be a part of it. Why would ANY-one want to give up the huge emotional thrills and highs? The “beyond” … would just have to be *more* of that … or some version thereof. If the “beyond” didn’t include these blissful rushes … it can’t be a true “beyond” because there should be *more* of the thrills … to live in the constant “bliss zone.”

The control and power station of the Lower Psychic Worlds is the Universal Mind … by whatever name one wishes to give it. The philosophies of the world are selected wrestlings with understanding all of this via the mind … what can mind make out of this-or-that and how can mind be used to understand it. Many of the religions are more emotionally based … enhancing the “feeling” of God … whatever “God” that might be. The Eastern religions and teachings take it all deeply into the mental worlds … and it is no surprise that those in the Eastern studies promote and give all praise to Brahman … as this name … amongst others … is a name given to the overseer of the Universal Mind … the mental regions or worlds … and all below. Accurately so … Brahman is the “God” of all … within the regions of the Lower Psychic Worlds … since all here is mostly formed and directed by the Universal Mind and those that are engaged in the operational design of these worlds. Without a doubt … the reverence of Brahman by the Eastern religions is accurate. To the level that these religions pertain … Brahman *is* the God that oversees all from the mental realms and below.

There is no criticism, judgment, dismissal, or accusation with this. It is the same as saying … this CEO is the head of such-and-such company … and … when talking of that company … they would be right.

Unquestionably … to step beyond the traditional teachings is only for the few. It is neither easy nor pleasant. Promises taught by these traditions claiming that all is supposedly a bed of roses with ease and beauty and ecstasy … turns out to be wrong … and many turn back when things do not develop as promised. Few people consider … and fewer know … that those who actually know “greater Truth” beyond the traditional teachings are the most shunned and disliked of all … and one must constantly draw upon previously learned virtues such as tolerance, endurance, forgiveness, etc.

A quote by the old philosopher Gustav Le Bon says it best …

The masses have never thirsted after truth. Whoever can supply them with
illusions is easily their master … whoever attempts to destroy their
illusions is always their victim.

Very few liked to be told they are wrong … or misled … or misinformed … or whatever. If someone is established within the traditions … they have strength in numbers. It takes incredible courage and strength to move beyond the traditions even on an exploratory level.

As a last tidbit of unconventional information … Soul … in and of Itself … in the “beginning” stages of education and up until the very final stages … is an incredibly timid creation because It does not know Its strengths, “features” and capabilities … which … is the obvious and prime reason for this entire educational system in the first place. How long does it take any individual Soul to learn beyond Its hesitancies, innocence, and ignorance … to put human terms on this … and uncover the tremendous power and ability of Soul Itself … Soul being the *most* complete and capable facet in all of Creation.

How long does it take to learn that?

I would bet that an actual average number of required lifetimes would surprise many.

Many that read this post will shrug it off … claiming that this all pertains to everyone else but not to *me.*

This is just one of the many hurdles all must overcome.

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… Soul … in and of Itself … in the “beginning” stages .... does not know Its strengths, “features” and capabilities …
which … is the obvious and prime reason for this entire educational system in the first place. How long does it take any individual Soul to ....
uncover the tremendous power and ability of Soul Itself … Soul being the *most* complete and capable facet in all of Creation.
Music to my ears...and not often heard.
Yes, I personally feel the prime reason of my existence is to love and feel Divine Love from The One or Creator God. BUT,
along with that is, indeed, to uncover, to realize my power and capabilities.
So far, so good!
Gosh, just in the last couple DAYS I've realized even more the power I have.
Ha, and then you write this.
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Old 04-04-2022, 10:49 PM
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Mizz H …

Please privately and quietly consider …

It’s not the power you *have* … but the power that you *are.*

It makes a big difference when dealing with the mental awareness of God and the pure awareness via Soul … of God.

Live … the difference.

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Old 04-04-2022, 11:01 PM
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Mizz H …
It’s not the power you *have* … but the power that you *are.*
Oh, that was just a fast sentence I blurted out between
'things' going on. Oh, I'm aware of who I am.
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Old 11-04-2022, 01:19 PM
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Considerations 127 …

The Trap is in the Design …

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I have often referred to the design of the Lower Psychic Worlds and the “how and why” of them. At the most basic level … they are designed to teach and train … using the tools of mind, body, and emotions to do just that. The filtering aspects of these three facets do what they do … because they “prefer” the beliefs and opinions to individually be what they are. … according to past lives experiences … and further refined via each current incarnation into the various cultures and societies.

Mind gathers data … information … “knowledge” … and selects that which works or is deemed beneficial in some way and repels that which causes upset to whatever level. Pretty much … what it likes and what it doesn’t like. Keeping the physical body safe and comfortable is a prime directive. All three facets work pretty much to this end. Keep in mind that working “against” something is the same as working “for” it. Energy is focused via either the battle for or against … with the “battle against” being faster and more effective … since the negative emotions are more forceful … thus bring to you exactly what you do *not* want by fighting against it. You essentially bring more into effect via anger, bitterness, fear, etc. You can see this at work with any of the “phobias” … brought into effect during an incredibly fearful or painful experience.

The learning and training of our preferences goes way beyond just accepting them mentally or emotionally. In essence … you *are* your past life preferences … brought into the present … and further developed. If it were all just a matter of learning bits of data … that would be much easier … but these factors control you … tremendously.

Learning to detect and control the limiting habits and developing the beneficial ones … an individual proceeds down the path. Life will bring into our lifetimes experiences to teach. Advancement is gained by becoming more and more of what Divine Spirit is as an essence … by way of Soul … which is the same basic nature as Divine Spirit … but this awareness is blackened out by the limiting preferences. As one walks the middle path more and more … being neither for nor against as much as possible … learning detachment from the material and outer pleasures … ( again … mind and emotions are “outer” to Soul Itself ) … one slowly achieves more harmony with the essence of Life IT-self.

The more one advances towards this level of detachment … the more is launched against you … because the “job” of the Negative Forces is to keep Soul trapped here in the Lower Psychic Worlds for as long as possible. Why? Because the level and depth of detachment and control *must* be exceptionally learned to the depths of Self … as Soul … not so much as a superiority … but as a steadfastness and resilience … as a devotion … as a strength and courage against all the the Negative Forces will throw at you … and to the degree one must learn to hold to the essences of Divine Spirit … no matter what.

This does *not* mean … one never falters. It means … that when you do … you solve and resolve the issue quickly … and then get back to the middle path … the “middle path” being an objective viewpoint … being neither for or against … and thus allowing for untainted or limiting decisions, choices, and lifestyles … a continued detachment to allow for balanced choice.

There are entities within the hierarchy of the Negative Forces whose job it is to keep track of “who is where” … paying little attention to most because they are so firmly entrenched within the egotistical preferences that they need little assistance to keep themselves trapped. The closer one gets to overall achievement … the more these Negative Forces will bring experiences into your life that “worked” against you in the past. These are *not* major, overwhelming assaults. More often than not they come by way of a friend or relative or co-worker … it can even be a simple statement or question … that sets off a trigger … and the battle is on again. You can be by yourself watching a movie or reading a book and view some phrase or experience that flares within … and the trap is set. These traps can be lifetimes old … many kept on the “back burner” to bring back out during the latter steps of the individual path.

Once again … each individual *will* learn to a supreme level … to the level of strength and courage … way past what most people even consider to be important. The tests will go on and on and on. Authentic Masters are prime targets. If one is within the Lower Psychic Worlds … you are subject to these influences. The only way to is to be strong enough to withstand them and not let them throw you off balance.

One of the prime “jobs” of the Negative Forces is to gather the necessary details about any individual so that they “know” what will set them off. Learning does not come about by experiences never happening … it comes about through necessary discipline to maintain balance as much as possible with what happens to us … and what we make out of it.

Please understand … these “traps” are not some monumental, volatile action. More often than not they are the soft whisperings of our own mind … a casual phrase by a friend … a ten-second scene in a movie … a minor remark by a total stranger that means little to anyone else … but to the individual … it is a trigger. Once that initial sudden awareness is kick-started … it builds … sometimes instantly. It all comes sweeping in … making the individual gasp in astonishment. The emotions overwhelm the thoughts and one begins to feed the other.

“What if - “ … is turned loose … and is a formidable antagonist.

We can “think” anything we wish … senseless or otherwise … beneficial or otherwise … detrimental or otherwise. We can conjure up a counter-measure to most anything just for the fun of it … and defend it … and consider ourselves the better for it. But in the end … it is not how well we can defend all the nuances … all the varying ramifications … all the levels and data bits. In the end … it is what we understand the root basics to be … and how well we hold to the fundamental cornerstones … the building blocks or all else.

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Considerations 128 …

The Inner World …

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For many … the concept of the inner world involves all that is not wrapped in the skin of the physical body. It should be made much more clear … that your inner world … in its entirety … is what makes your “outer world” … or that which you physically experience. Your inner world … in various layers or facets or parts … would be all our emotions … all your memories … all your thoughts … your belief system … the viewpoints or perspectives from which you live … etc … and continuing to the extreme of you yourself as Soul. Soul Itself would be the core or heart of all facets … the emotions, mental faculties and physical body being “outer” to Soul but “inner” to the human condition. Things can be both simple and complex at the same time.

Many are finally catching on to the principle that it is your inner world that designs / creates / manifests all outward expression that we experience in the Lower Psychic Worlds. This gives rise to the concept and belief that the outer world is all illusion … a concept that mind delights in. In this way mind can dismiss and discount most of what is beyond itself to understand. What better way to declare something as being “insignificant” and so unworthy of understanding. Mind will declare everything as a dream … illusory at best … and continue to wrestle with the understanding of it. Mind … complicates. Mind … confuses. Mind compares … to obscure … to make the issue(s) difficult to understand but delight in the pursuit.

Your belief as to what life is all about … is pushed outward and revealed to you via your outer, physical experiences. I’ve been through this a bit before. Truth be known … the inner world should be as familiar and real to you as your “outer” world. You should know the foundations upon which you understand all of LIFE around you as clearly as you know how to get to the local mall … or whatever example you wish to use there. The bottom line … the inner worlds of each of us exists … and they construct the outer worlds which we experience. One may use the eyes and other physical senses to perceive … but one uses the inner world to interpret what you see … or hear … or etc.
You build constructive forces into your life via the inner worlds. The outer world brings destructive forces. KNOW this. EXPECT this.
If you wish changes in your life … you must make those changes on the inner first. Those that live by the physical senses suffer via the physical senses.

Many believe that the “inner worlds” simply suggests going “inside” and dealing with the mental thoughts, habits, and patterns … and the involved emotional passions that feed them. Obviously … this is a start … and begins the individual on the acceptance of “The answer lies within.” Eventually … one discovers that it is not that simple. To “go inside” and work on what’s already there … gets you nowhere. To go within and simply stop the mind … leaves you where you “are” when you rejoin the outer world.

The “inner wolds” truly begin at the tisra til … or the third eye. It is here that you begin to ponder what lies beyond … what would be your ideal that would release you from limitation … it is here that you discover your world of potential. “Potential” … lies beyond reason and logic. Reason and logic revolve around ones accepted personal experience … revolves around what has happened to you and “makes sense” to you according to past experience.

If his has led you to where you wish to be … fine. If not … then it is time to explore and consider the various potentialities that you might work yourself into … plan for the new … what would be the more broad stance upon which to build your own understanding of life around you and your personal world within which to live.

The inner worlds are your constructive forces … the food and inner nourishment from which your outer world is designed. Your outer world is effect … that which you set in motion sometime in the past and within which you outwardly live at the moment. Many do not know or believe that the entire outer world of individual life is the “effect” of the inward causes you have set in motion by attentive focus … which is often simple preference … many times via habit.

One is not to deny the outer world for it indicates where your inner focus has been … but realizes that the outer world is one of “becoming” … of pre-manifestation … or pre-individual experience. The outer world is what you have brought to pass. Once again … the outer world is effect … designed by your inner perceptions and beliefs … and beyond that … by your passion to be in a state that is beyond where you are at the moment.

The latter is *not* automatic. You must intentionally go inside and design it … because you will habitually follow the old habits and patterns you have followed forever. Logic and reason will hold you to the past. Yes … there are levels of logic and reason that whisper … “Logically … *this* should be beyond *that* or “This should follow that.” If one is content with this approach … please carry on. If one wishes to truly design beyond the current stance and bring those conditions to you.

Intuition is a facet of this and one to highly develop. You begin to look for possibilities … to see or sense a different “you” … to live a bit above and beyond where you are at the moment.

One of the true stumbling blocks in all of this is that the individual wishes to design just “more of” what one has now … perhaps … more money … more power … more status … more goodies … bigger houses … more expensive cars … the list is endless. LIFE is not here to help draw to you more outward trinkets … greater status over others … or the means to control others to do what you want them to do. There are long, long sequences of lifetimes where this is the individual preference. When the time comes when the individual truly wishes to move beyond the material and the Lower Psychic Worlds … this is when you learn a whole new level of all of this. You learn that your understanding of Self as Soul and your interaction with LIFE is the foundation upon which to build.

A final bit of esoterica … if and when one approaches a workable harmony with LIFE … the traditions claim that from that point on it is a road of ease and all goes your way. Um … NO. Though your life may be “well designed” … the masses around you are not … and they will prevail upon you in incredible ways … from co-workers to family members to friends … etc. You could try to control all interactions … but that leads to karmic implications.

Why is this?

There are many reasons for the “why” of this but a primary explanation asks … how else will you continue to develop the very high ethics of forgiveness, tolerance, strength, courage, patience, etc? If everything should “go your way” … you will learn … very little indeed.

It is along these steps of the path that things really begin to get interesting.

More next Monday.

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