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06-10-2020, 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Gentenz
Hi,
Are there chances that anyone's next life will be anything but human again? If so, are there chances that we can be a fish, an ant, or a frog or other animals that have 0 to very low intellectual capacity?
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Here's something to think about..
The earliest known ''life forms'' go back to at least around 4 billions of years ago. Throughout earth's history many species (most that have existed) have gone extinct. Today, there are billions of humans, cows, pigs, chickens, and of course even more ants and other small organisms. There are only a few thousand tigers left, even less Amur leopards. Many animals (and pants) are critically endangered. Homo sapiens are around 230K years old, and that's just where we have pointers of reference, of substantial differentiation, as organisms aren't fixed or ''created'' by any imaginary being.
The question that you raise already carries baggage (such as ''intellectual capacity'') and you infer ''meaning'' from it. It is you as a human looking into the mirror and thinking up these belief systems.
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06-10-2020, 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by BigJohn
Buddha was re-birth numerous times as an animal. One of his famous re-births was when he was a monkey.
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Did he ever talk about his ''past life'' as a penguin, kangaroo or hyacinth macaw? Did he experience life as a eoraptor or sequoia tree?
I don't think so..
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06-10-2020, 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by BigJohn
There are a lot of different school of 'thoughts' on this subject.
Today, there are a lot of Western Buddhists that believe the current Buddha was not a monkey.
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Perhaps best to be cautious whose ideas one heeds?
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08-10-2020, 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by bobjob
Perhaps best to be cautious whose ideas one heeds?
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But then...... some Buddhists will tell you they do not believe in re-incarnation but instead, will tell you they believe in re-birth.
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08-10-2020, 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by BigJohn
But then...... some Buddhists will tell you they do not believe in re-incarnation but instead, will tell you they believe in re-birth.
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Are Buddhists like Spiritualists? The ones who know what they're talking about and the ones who don't.....?
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08-10-2020, 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by bobjob
Are Buddhists like Spiritualists? The ones who know what they're talking about and the ones who don't.....?
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SPOT ON!!
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Happiness is the result of an enlightened mind whereas suffering is caused by a distorted mind.
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08-10-2020, 04:24 PM
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SPOT ON!!
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20-10-2020, 10:49 PM
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I would like to be a single celled Amoeba or a jellyfish or octopus or maybe a planet in another galaxy.
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27-10-2020, 12:14 PM
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4th time to 5th dimension onwards
5th time
6th time
7th time
With a Big smile
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27-10-2020, 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by iamthat
My personal belief based on years of study is that the human kingdom and the animal kingdom are completely separate. Once we have evolved to the human kingdom we cannot go backwards into the animal kingdom.
This is partly based on the nature of a human being in terms of our bodies or vehicles. We have a physical body, etheric (energy) body, emotional body, mental body, plus higher spiritual vehicles for the expression of self-aware Soul consciousness. An animal has a physical body, a limited emotional body and a rudimentary mental body. Soul consciousness would not chose incarnation in animal form because such forms are too limited for any kind of Soul expression.
Peace
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I'm no expert -but this is what I believe is true, also.
And smarter people than I have said it!!
Some guru described it as like turning an elephant into a breadbox...doesn't happen.
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Prepare yourself for the coming astral journey of death by daily riding in the balloon of God-perception.
Through delusion you are perceiving yourself as a bundle of flesh and bones, which at best is a nest of troubles.
Meditate unceasingly, that you may quickly behold yourself as the Infinite Essence, free from every form of misery. ~Paramahansa's Guru's Guru.
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