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Old 31-01-2022, 05:14 PM
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to Hell and Back

I found these videos recently. I heard of malevolent spirits, but doubted the existence of hell, but is such a thing possible? Are some people put there permanently?

The Other Side: Near Death Experiences to Hell and Back, Hosted by Dr. Will Miller 1 of 6
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWjgWngMceU

part 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVrWvV42vcw

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Old 08-02-2022, 07:36 PM
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I found these videos recently. I heard of malevolent spirits, but doubted the existence of hell, but is such a thing possible? Are some people put there permanently?

I'll finish looking at these vids later ... it's interesting the first post here deals with a particular question I have, that to date, I haven't gotten an answer to.

You should take a look at the book The Science of Evil: On Empathy and the Origins of Cruelty. This is what we are REALLY dealing with.

My basic problem with the "other side" and "us here" boils down to a single question that the ancients "made up" answers for. "Evil."

In other words, the ancients did not have "brain scan" machines, nor did they understand the brain and how it works. One of those "answers" they made up was to blame the "evil spirits" and their head honcho Satan. (Does Satan exist? No.)

Today when a person gets scanned, it can be seen that there are what I call "bio-mechanical" problems, top of the "problem" line is that some people do not have "empathy." Why? The areas of the brain that should produce empathy - simply put - do not work.

Now, this doesn't mean you are going to be "evil" ... but, if the right circumstances surround you - there WILL be problems.

We are essentially surrounded by non-empathic trouble makers who - simply put - "don't care." They don't care because they can't care. The older they get, and the more problems attack them, the worse they get.

Now there are other brain glitches that cause this "evil" problem, but for me regarding the "LOVE" and "CARING" that's on the "other side" ... my question simply is - why don't they FIX IT?

Not only have these people lost their lives here, and have been responsible for the death and injury of countless normal people (look at the nuking of Japan - how many people died?) but it seems in their "afterlife" they are put in a place where like minds get to live together, and from the sound of some of these stories, "HELL" isn't a bad term for it.

These people also create scenarios that pound on young children, and as children grow up, depending on what has happened, suicide just may be in their picture. Why does "LOVE" continue to allow this to happen?

Like I said, just because you are non-empathic it doesn't mean you are going to be "EVIL." This video is a great example ... Dr James Fallon.

Since this is my first post, it doesn't seem much is available - I can't even post the link. You'll have to go to Youtube and look up:

The Moth: Confessions of a Pro-Social Psychopath - James Fallon
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Old 03-06-2022, 08:48 PM
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I found these videos recently. I heard of malevolent spirits, but doubted the existence of hell, but is such a thing possible? Are some people put there permanently?

Very interesting questions! And in my experience of AP, yes, Hell very much exist, and so do Paradise. I been to both. Dark beings dwell in Hell (not necessary bad beings though) when they don't have a physical body anymore. People can choose to stay there as long as they like, I was told. However there is a way out.
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Old 13-10-2022, 01:17 AM
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Very interesting questions! And in my experience of AP, yes, Hell very much exist, and so do Paradise. I been to both. Dark beings dwell in Hell (not necessary bad beings though) when they don't have a physical body anymore. People can choose to stay there as long as they like, I was told. However there is a way out.

When you say there is a way out, are you talking about the poor souls or victims that are in hell? If I was to end up in hell, how would I escape?
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Old 13-10-2022, 04:39 AM
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When you say there is a way out, are you talking about the poor souls or victims that are in hell?
If I was to end up in hell, how would I escape?
From Post 7, iamthat said it perfectly:

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But it is not permanent. People remain in the lower astral realms
until they have finally had enough and they begin to seek something higher.
There is no external judgemental power keeping people imprisoned in these places.
Everyone is their own jailer and can leave at any time, if they only knew it.
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Old 13-10-2022, 04:58 AM
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From Post 7, iamthat said it perfectly:
I read his post and it resonated pretty well with me...but I had this small doubt in my head saying 'what if hes wrong?'. What if hell is like a prison where you die over and over again in the most gruesome way possible?

I remember this one post from the past lives and reincarnation thread, where one member said he spent some time in hell before he left. Or did he say escaped? Cant remember lol. If he left voluntarily that would be great, itll lessen the fear a bit for me.
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Old 04-06-2022, 04:14 PM
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Yes I agree AstralTraveller Hell exists, I was shown these distorted 'faces' just drifting in the darkness - Lower Astral Realms in deep space, where as science says there are more planets/stars in the universe than grains of sand on 'all' the worlds beaches, its vast out there - it exists as does Heaven.

Also IMO, we are to continue our life plan - anyone struggling right now 'get help' on here or locally to continue - the light after the darkness is so beautiful, and you'll be stronger / wiser...
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Old 05-06-2022, 10:21 PM
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I often wonder as well if "Hell" exists and then you see the evilness of some people and wonder if they escaped from "HELL" and are back here??
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Old 06-06-2022, 01:48 AM
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Here is where both evil and good co-exist. At a constant war.
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Old 06-06-2022, 11:50 PM
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Here is where both evil and good co-exist. At a constant war.
Ya quite possible!
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