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Old 13-11-2020, 01:02 PM
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Fair enough that your opinion is that there is no such thing as spirit, soul or supernatural but why introduce the concept of 'now'?

'Now' exists independent of soul, spirit and what we call the supernatural.
These are all conceptions of our imagination(s) because we look for an explanation of being conscious.
The 'now' was present at the BigBang and will exist when the universe again collapses into itself.
There is nothing else.
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The constantly promoted belief (induced by religions) that we are born to be good and obey (in order to enter heaven) is a tragic error in the concept of the universe's plan and an insult to mankind's intellect.

'A clear conscience is the sure sign of a bad memory'
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Old 13-11-2020, 01:44 PM
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'Now' exists independent of soul, spirit and what we call the supernatural.
These are all conceptions of our imagination(s) because we look for an explanation of being conscious.
The 'now' was present at the BigBang and will exist when the universe again collapses into itself.
There is nothing else.

Then it appears you have nothing to offer to help members seeking help.
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Old 13-11-2020, 01:56 PM
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Then it appears you have nothing to offer to help members seeking help.

I don't know how to respond, maybe I don't get your point?
The sheer and overwhelmingly enthralling existence of the All is my starting point.
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The constantly promoted belief (induced by religions) that we are born to be good and obey (in order to enter heaven) is a tragic error in the concept of the universe's plan and an insult to mankind's intellect.

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Old 13-11-2020, 02:03 PM
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Then it appears you have nothing to offer to help members seeking help.
"There is nothing else"
Seems so. Could we be wrong? Sure.
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Through delusion you are perceiving yourself as a bundle of flesh and bones, which at best is a nest of troubles.
Meditate unceasingly, that you may quickly behold yourself as the Infinite Essence, free from every form of misery. ~Paramahansa's Guru's Guru
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Old 13-11-2020, 02:05 PM
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I don't know how to respond, maybe I don't get your point?

Take a look at posting #11 and then maybe you'll get my point. I try to help folk with the bread-and-butter stuff that can cause consternation for regular folk who are afraid or unsure. It's not for me that I do what I do....
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Old 13-11-2020, 02:29 PM
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Home is heart.
I understand what you're saying.
What you love, cherish, enjoy is where you feel safe, comfortable,
at your best...that is your home.
Your home is not where your resentments and past sufferings are, right?

Heart is an organ, why so literal, Bobjob!!

Heart as a poet and a lover knows heart...
the heart that soars
to heights almost unthought of...
over that rainbow,
where your dreams are, all the hopes of beauty,
peace and fulfillment.
The heart that leaps out of your chest when you see
your long lost dog, your husband back from Irag.
This is the heart spoken of.
Home is the feeling (or frequency) of utter contentment and
happiness and much more...that is within our heart.
Where we came from and belong and are going back to...
Hahaha, at least I am!
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Through delusion you are perceiving yourself as a bundle of flesh and bones, which at best is a nest of troubles.
Meditate unceasingly, that you may quickly behold yourself as the Infinite Essence, free from every form of misery. ~Paramahansa's Guru's Guru
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Old 13-11-2020, 02:43 PM
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Take a look at posting #11 and then maybe you'll get my point. I try to help folk with the bread-and-butter stuff that can cause consternation for regular folk who are afraid or unsure. It's not for me that I do what I do....

Carry on with your good work, if giving succour and comfort is near to your heart and ideals then what could be better. It's not removed from mine, but my presumptions are different.

We all have differing concepts, some meet with mass approval and become popular, some hover at the edges. In my world everyone is right. We are 8 billion people and everyone's concept of how things are reflects the 'truth'.

I've used this before; If you want to know the secret of life's mystery ask the rice planter in Viet Nam, you know the one up to his knees in water. His concept is just as valid as mine.
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The constantly promoted belief (induced by religions) that we are born to be good and obey (in order to enter heaven) is a tragic error in the concept of the universe's plan and an insult to mankind's intellect.

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Old 13-11-2020, 02:55 PM
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Heart is an organ, why so literal, Bobjob!!
why so figurative, Miss H?
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Heart as a poet and a lover knows heart...
the heart that soars
to..........our husband back from Irag.
This is the heart spoken of.
Were the thread in the poetry forum I would have expected poetry.
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Home is the feeling (or frequency) of utter contentment and
happiness and much more...that is within our heart.
Where we came from and belong and are going back to...
Hahaha, at least I am!
I had been responding to the concerns of two members, quoting their words as I did. They spoke about what happens after death and expressed their uncertainties. I tried to address their concerns.
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Old 13-11-2020, 03:08 PM
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Carry on with your good work, if giving succour and comfort is near to your heart and ideals then what could be better.
That's all I hoped to do and I addressed my words to those I hoped to help.
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It's not removed from mine, but my presumptions are different.
I didn't presume anything - I responded to what had been 'said'.
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We all have differing concepts, some meet with mass approval and become popular, some hover at the edges. In my world everyone is right. We are 8 billion people and everyone's concept of how things are reflects the 'truth'.
In a different thread, with a different context I would engage with those thoughts and ideas but this was not the thread to do it.
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I've used this before; If you want to know the secret of life's mystery ask the rice planter in Viet Nam, you know the one up to his knees in water. His concept is just as valid as mine.
I would not wish to change the way you seek information.
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Old 13-11-2020, 03:56 PM
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why so figurative, Miss H?

Were the thread in the poetry forum I would have expected poetry.

I had been responding to the concerns of two members, quoting their words as I did.
They spoke about what happens after death and expressed their uncertainties. I tried to address their concerns.
Hahaha, made me laugh...
Helping as you do is appreciated, btw.
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Through delusion you are perceiving yourself as a bundle of flesh and bones, which at best is a nest of troubles.
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