Are we really responsible/manifest everything that happens to us?

[charly233]

Thank you Miss Hepburn and Iamthat for your replies.

It is very interesting to read about your different perspectives.

[Redchic12]

I like the point that you made “learn to live with the not knowing”.

[kris]

Originally Posted by charly233

It seems to me that a crucial question is are we responsible for the pain and suffering in the universe?

We are sometimes told that the universe is perfect.

I think we are responsible for our own pain and suffering, but not for all the suffering in the universe. We are not powerful enough to make everyone in the universe suffer. A statement such as "the universe is perfect" can only be made by someone who has full understanding of the universe. So far, I have not come across any such person.

[kris]

This is the only universe I know. I don't know if there is a better universe somewhere or a worse universe somewhere.
There is no standard I can apply to judge this universe. And I do not think it is my place to place to grade the universe. I just accept it as it is.

[Redchic12]

Yep Kris, I feel about the same as you. I just accept it for what it is and don’t give too much thought to the whys and how’s cos it’s so complex and too time consuming for my little brain.

I like your comments about the car Miss H. I had to laugh because that was like looking at myself. I just seem to say “whatever” when something like that happens in my life. Come to think about it, I say that most of the time! Lol

[aiken]

yes! we are really responsible for everything that happens to us. we really manifest all of it because, while we often do not have power over the circumstances that life throws at us, we can always choose how we deal with them.

[Wisteria]

Who you are is who you was, what u become is what u do now!

[BigJohn]

Some people seem to be pre-disposed to look at things as being 'bad' whereas some people look at the same things as an aspect of life.

Also, some people have a 'short fuse' whereas others don't seem to have a fuse.

Probably, this came about from what we are exposed to..... We probably are a 'product' of what we 'eat'.

[Wisteria]

That is a very good explanation, thinking of the placebo affect, people don’t realise how powerful the mind is, if we change the way we look at things, the things we look at change.

[lemex]

Originally Posted by charly233

We need to look to our Hearts and learn to live with the not knowing.

Best advice except one finds heart knows. I have always found I knew. Heart doesn't use logic and the idea not knowing is usually logic based so not knowing an illusion of mind, not heart. The energy of heart is turned off given over to mind. At least this is my experience.

It is about both manifesting or what has not (been) manifested yet when talking about manifesting. Not just about what we do but what we don't. Realize manifesting keeps one from moving or allows it. We cannot move forward to the next universe until what is not manifested, is.

We are given ample time to manifest through each incarnation, an evolution to perfection. Spirit (soul) has it's own state of being and consciousness and it manifests as well.