Christ, Tao, Logos, Buddha-nature etc etc

[The Cobbler's Apprentice]

"They lived and laughed and loved and left."

(Line from Finnegans Wake, James Joyce)

[The Cobbler's Apprentice]

"Mystery of the unconscious? Bah! What about the mystery of consciousness?"

(James Joyce)

[Alphone]

Originally Posted by The Cobbler's Apprentice

T.S.Eliot, who knew his Christian mystics as well as being well read on the various eastern faiths, felt no compunction in alluding to the Bhagavad Gita in one section of his poems and Dante's Paradiso in the next.

"They do Him wrong who love and worship God in just one way - they end with the way rather than God." ( Meister Eckhart )

Hello,

Can you recommend some of T.S.Eliot's writings that actually point out the Logos of each religion ? For example, in Taoism it is Tao, in Buddhism it is Buddha-nature, in Christianity it is Sophia(Word of God), then how about other religions and mythologies ? Do they also have Logos-like concepts ? If they do, what are their Logos ?

[Miss Hepburn]

Originally Posted by Alphone

Hello,

Can you recommend some of T.S.Eliot's writings that actually point out the Logos of each religion ? For example, in Taoism it is Tao, in Buddhism it is Buddha-nature, in Christianity it is Sophia(Word of God), then how about other religions and mythologies ? Do they also have Logos-like concepts?

Sophia, eh? I never heard that one! anyone else? Or is it just me out of the loop?

Sat Nam or Naam, True Name, the Holy Name of God, the Word....in Sikh and Hindu traditons...Ref Kirpal Singh, Guru Nanak, Shabd would lead you to many things.

[Molearner]

The tradition of Sophia is quite strong throughout the history of the Church……Hagia Sophia e.g.

[Drewan]

The Sophia is essentially the Divine Feminine in Christianity. She is also known as The Bride of Christ.

One could look at Her as an evolution along a line of spiritual advancement:

Eve ------> Mary -----> Sophia

where:

• Eve is the Adam stage of The Fall - where humankind develops a collective ego.
• Mary is a Jesus stage with the Death of the old ego - and the birth of the Divine Individual.
• Sophia is the Christ stage of the Resurrection of the Divine Individual, into the Cosmic ‘I’ of Christ: a Consciousness of being the Divine Individual and the Divine All.

The Sophia revelations have particularly gained prominence in the Eastern Orthodox Christian tradition and the Slavic peoples.

Rudolf Steiner’s works are named after the Sophia and Her Wisdom: Anthroposophy.

The Divine Feminine, including the Christian Divine Feminine Trinity, is an extensive focus of the work of Robert Powell at the Sophia Foundation - including the translations of the Sophia revelations as through the Russian and Slavic streams. More at: sophiafoundation.org.

[Miss Hepburn]

Holy moly - I don't know all that much that is in the Bible...Main things, yes.
I see online Sophia is mentioned often!!
My touchpad is not working right...so I can't copy paste things I found, sorry.

[Dogensoto]

Originally Posted by Alphone

Hello,

Can you recommend some of T.S.Eliot's writings that actually point out the Logos of each religion ? For example, in Taoism it is Tao, in Buddhism it is Buddha-nature, in Christianity it is Sophia(Word of God), then how about other religions and mythologies ? Do they also have Logos-like concepts ? If they do, what are their Logos ?

Hi, just seen this. It is actually the (in)famous Cobbler here. At some point I left the Forum but as is my habit I drifted about and came back, under a new somewhat pretentious name. I have a few mental health issues, nothing serious, perhaps less serious than many who think they have none. Anyway, I waffle as usual.

I don't really see the Logos as a "concept" to be pointed to in various ways in different Religions. More that which gives rise to the Religions in all their variations. So we have to open our mind/hearts to the Logos within each, or whatever. Or have our mind/heart opened beyond our calculations, by Grace.

The "logos" is "empty", beyond any word.

[Dogensoto]

I must say I was staggered by seeing the number if views of this thread. And reading through it, I almost recognised myself speaking!

[Dogensoto]

Reading through I see reference to Finnegans Wake. I still dip into this book, and it remains the best book that I have never read (in full)

It really is alive. A few pages each day can brighten the mood. Today I saw reference to zen as being a tradition outside of scripture.....

For that (the rapt one warns) is what papyr is meed of, made of, hides and hints and misses in prints.

Whether or not James Joyce had any such thought in mind I have no idea, and anyway Dogen (13th century zen master) never even agreed with that "tradition outside of scripture" business. Something to do with it being a dualist understanding.