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14-06-2021, 07:43 AM
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Master
Join Date: Jul 2017
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Hii AbodhiSky,
The problem doesn’t arise in “good” or “wrong” but rather in “possible an very pleasant” or “impossible and thereby a problem, or possible but very harmful”
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14-06-2021, 07:58 AM
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everything is a learning experience
Last edited by AbodhiSky : 14-06-2021 at 05:15 PM.
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14-06-2021, 08:10 AM
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Master
Join Date: Jul 2017
Posts: 1,508
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Hii AbodhiSky,
Thanks for your input. However it doesn’t help me practically let go of my desire.. or work them out as Altair and Sky123 suggested I could do and needed to open up for.
I appreciate your kindness, however it does not serve the thread currently.
Much kindness,
Cosmic Wonder
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14-06-2021, 09:06 AM
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Master
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Everywhere... and Nowhere
Posts: 6,647
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CosmicWonder
I have more natural “intimate” cravings which I can’t satisfy for years (only recently I’ve had someone becoming intimate with me) if that’s ok enough for the younger ones reading.
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These are natural desires. Some try to eliminate them through some ''practice'' but from my experiences said ''practices'' only strengthen desires. It would be more worrying if you didn't have those desires because then something would be amiss, physically. The easiest way to control it, CosmicWonder, is through sex or masturbation. Release is connected to control. I don't have a partner so I do the latter and I simply enjoy it. Best to own it and see it as a natural part of myself, just like eating and sleeping.
As a reminder, many ''masters'' that preach(ed) abstinence are/were old, so they speak from a position of reduced testosterone.
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14-06-2021, 09:12 AM
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Master
Join Date: Jul 2017
Posts: 1,508
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Thanks very much Altair.
Might very well be true yes.. it’s hard to desire such things tho. Or crave someone to love you.
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14-06-2021, 11:34 AM
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Ascender
Join Date: May 2021
Location: Europe
Posts: 908
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Desires, they can vanish by themselves actually.
If you meditate enough and can reach trance, you will experience something which is bigger than anything, including sex. You will get hugs from the universe that no human being can give you. It will fulfill your desires.
Also, meditation can teach you that sex is mainly about projection. The act, once you remove all these projections / day-dreaming etc, the thing which happens in reality ... is nothing.
And that's the same with everything: we (day)dream more about things than we actually enjoy them.
One funny thing. When I was 16 or so, I had read once about the sexual Tao. And after practicing perineum exercises and semen retention, I masturbated without any projection, in the pure present moment. I had the BEST orgasm in my life, a cosmic orgasm, I had all the energy coming from my base chakra to my head, I then felt love and a whole connection with nature for several days after that.
So, in short, meditate, live in the present moment, cut all day-dreaming, and your desires will vanish by themselves.
If you are disgusted or feel bad after taking pleasure, that means you have lived it in a dream / projection, but not in reality.
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14-06-2021, 11:40 AM
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Ascender
Join Date: May 2021
Location: Europe
Posts: 908
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Ah, one thing to control your desires: set yourself fasting periods.
If your main desire is sexual, stop any sexual activity for a week or two.
If it's food, do intermittent fasting, or a full day without eating.
etc
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14-06-2021, 12:28 PM
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Master
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: Delhi, India
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Personally, I don’t think that we need to repress or even sublimate desires. In fact, it may be counterproductive to do so. Non-doing is also a choice of doership. There is nothing wrong with desire, in as an urge. Stagnation is the problem. Addiction confines us, contracts us.
If we embrace & release like the breeze, with ease, our heart can engage & disengage in the variety of experiences offered without any egoic glue. Or in a word, celebration. We celebrate each breath with wonderment & astonishment, forging deeper fearlessly into the void, with childlike trust.
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The Self has no attribute
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14-06-2021, 03:00 PM
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Master
Join Date: Jul 2017
Posts: 1,508
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I think that at the moment my main desire is social support, and I don’t mean someone claiming or trying to support, no I mean someone being capable of supporting me.
This is being an unsatisfied desire for my entire life
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14-06-2021, 03:36 PM
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Master
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 15,634
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CosmicWonder
I think that at the moment my main desire is social support, and I don’t mean someone claiming or trying to support, no I mean someone being capable of supporting me.
This is being an unsatisfied desire for my entire life
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Mybe the People who are supporting you are giving all they can. I don't know what your Personal problems are but sometimes when we don't get what we want we look to blame others and look for failures that don't exist. Life doesn't always go the way we want it to. A little flexibility goes a long way.
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