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Old 10-01-2021, 10:47 PM
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Re: Afterlife

Thanks for sharing your perspective on the afterlife sadguy347. I use to be an atheist until a few years back (a few years ago). I've had quite the journey and this is what I learned about the afterlife.

You have a name, an identity that is not the same on earth. You are known by many and loved immensely by everyone even those you've might not remember to have met. What we call God or "Source" is like the nebula you described in your post. It's much like us, but larger in scope. It's dynamic, alive, and the seed of our consciousness. There is no life that doesn't have a soul. And people who die in wars die, because it was their time to go home, not because they didn't have consciousness.

The afterlife is a different kind of "place". But to even call it a place would be incomplete, to call it an event is probably more like it. We think there is a hierarchy over there, but there isn't. The only hierarchy that is, is simply scope. On a smaller scale, you too are a creator, destroyer, and the love you feel is the brain's way of recreating the connection you have with others in this life. Once we die, we are not tied to our bodies, we return to that Soulforce that pulls us in with incredible acceptance and that sensation we call love. You've heard people who have experienced NDE's say that everything finally was understood. They knew everything. But understanding doesn't have the same purpose as it does over there. You understand because you simply are having an experience.

We each have our understanding of God, and how we choose to see him, it, her, they, I AM, source, it melds itself to our needs because it loves us so. Imagine the greatest thing you can think of, and how great it would feel to be joined to it. That greatest is what the afterlife is like.

When you remember who you are, you will remember your one true name. Language is for humans, but the will and language of the soul is love!

Remember Sadguy347 you are loved, and always in the company of many.

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Old 10-01-2021, 11:01 PM
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That was beautiful, soulforce.
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Old 10-01-2021, 11:08 PM
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Soulforce, Yup - Well, said!!!!
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Old 11-01-2021, 10:01 AM
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Thanks for sharing your perspective on the afterlife sadguy347. I use to be an atheist until a few years back (a few years ago). I've had quite the journey and this is what I learned about the afterlife.

You have a name, an identity that is not the same on earth. You are known by many and loved immensely by everyone even those you've might not remember to have met. What we call God or "Source" is like the nebula you described in your post. It's much like us, but larger in scope. It's dynamic, alive, and the seed of our consciousness. There is no life that doesn't have a soul. And people who die in wars die, because it was their time to go home, not because they didn't have consciousness.

The afterlife is a different kind of "place". But to even call it a place would be incomplete, to call it an event is probably more like it. We think there is a hierarchy over there, but there isn't. The only hierarchy that is, is simply scope. On a smaller scale, you too are a creator, destroyer, and the love you feel is the brain's way of recreating the connection you have with others in this life. Once we die, we are not tied to our bodies, we return to that Soulforce that pulls us in with incredible acceptance and that sensation we call love. You've heard people who have experienced NDE's say that everything finally was understood. They knew everything. But understanding doesn't have the same purpose as it does over there. You understand because you simply are having an experience.

We each have our understanding of God, and how we choose to see him, it, her, they, I AM, source, it melds itself to our needs because it loves us so. Imagine the greatest thing you can think of, and how great it would feel to be joined to it. That greatest is what the afterlife is like.

When you remember who you are, you will remember your one true name. Language is for humans, but the will and language of the soul is love!

Remember Sadguy347 you are loved, and always in the company of many.

sf

Thanks that made me feel so much better.

Glad to hear that some parts of my theory match up with some testimonies, like the Nebulous. Glad to hear we can create our own afterlife too.
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Old 11-01-2021, 08:24 PM
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Hey GlitterRose and Miss Hepburn! Thank you for your kind words. It was such an interesting question to try and answer.

Sadguy347 I'm glad to have helped. I hope you keep posting on here and start more interesting conversations!

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Old 14-01-2021, 12:02 AM
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There is nothing ground into stone in our afterlife and we are still left with free will after death.Most people choose to go into the main light tunnel that leads them into a life overview and then studying for their next incarnation.There are other avenues to explore besides the main tunnel.Some old soul types prefer to enter into one of the more faint light portals leading to other dimensions and realms.A few choose to stay where they are, and become ghosts to haunt people for a few hundred years.It is all allowed in our afterlife as we can have as much, or as little fun as we wish.Most choose Earth for another round of REALITY so they can develop themselves some more,but not this weary camper ,as I have developed myself to the point of no return, Like an overexposed film.
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Old 14-01-2021, 07:49 AM
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I was just wondering based on all the information about NDEs etc, what do you think the afterlife is and why do you think we are here.

Here is my theory.

Just to be clear I am not saying this is real. It might be, the same way anything could be, but I dreamed this up as a way of comfort for myself (been feeling depressed these last few days about the big questions.)

This is based on what I have read about people on the other side on here and other places. I'd love to hear what some other spiritual people think. I know that a lot of people here have put theories forward about what they think God is and the afterlife, so I hope this isn't offending anyone.

I see God and the creation of everything as being part of a stable time loop that goes like this.

1/ First off God creates Heaven, a perfect dimension. He then creates the Angels, perfect life forms to exist in heaven. The Angels then create God at an earlier point in his life and send him back to create heaven.

2/ After creating heaven, God next creates the first universe. He places another dimension around it, one which we will call the Nebulous for practicality sake. Now the Nebulous is an infinite source of power. It is also programmed by God to be benevolent, though it is not sentient itself.

The Nebulous is connected to every living thing. Whenever any life form is about to die, its mind is removed from its body by the Nebulous. The mind is then placed in the Nebulous where it receives a life review after which if it is a good person then it is placed into a comatose state until the universe dies.

Once the universe dies, all of the good people's minds are revived and they are then given 10 years of bliss together.

After that, the minds all merge together and create a new simulated universe together.

Now the simulated universe is similar to ours in some ways, but different in others.

To start with in the simulated copy, all sentient creatures like humans exist at the same time on different planets. Their development runs parallel to one another. All of these species have a similar early history as this universe, but once each species reaches a certain point where they become civilised, they meet up and eventually together they all build a better society than they ever did apart.

Now all of the good people from the original universe who are fused together separate and remain in a comatose state until they are reborn as themselves, with no memory of their previous life. All of these good people then live out the best version of their lives, until they die again. When they die again they are rewarded with another 10 years of bliss during which they get memories of their previous life back and get to choose how their next life will go and the process repeats forever.

The same is true for every animal too, though obviously animals don't choose their lives, they just live out a great version of it.

In every simulated universe there are billions of false people created who have no consciousness and are not alive. They are merely illusions, but they look real to us. These false people are the ones who are killed in wars throughout our history. Things like World War 2, the Roman empire etc still happen, but the only people who die or suffer through them are false people. This is because if the new reality were too perfect we'd suspect it and wouldn't be able to understand a world without evil sadly.

Our family and friends are never false people. Sometimes depending on the history there might be a false version of us created. Like for instance if someone's dream is to be the most famous singer, the in one version they will be, whilst in the next they will either be a famous singer, or not exist, and neither will their loved ones or friends etc.

Similarly if a great tragedy inspires a great work of art, then in some versions the great work of art won't exist, or in others it will be inspired by an NPC version of the tragedy.

Similarly species who go extinct in order for other races to flourish will live on another planet, whilst NPC versions of them will go extinct instead.

The same law applies for animals too. Lions for instance only feed on NPC animals. Regular animals all die of natural causes at a healthy age in the simulated universes, as do all people of course.

There are also plenty of new people created in the simulated universe as there would have to be. These people are good people and live out wonderful versions of their lives too.

Eventually the simulated universe comes to an end after the last real person dies (in this version of events the last real person dies thinking they are in a perfect society surrounded by NPCS. The last group of real people die at the same time as one another.)

Following this another simulated universe is created in the Nebulous and the process repeats forever.

The evil people's souls meanwhile are punished for one year after death simply by being made to feel the pain they inflicted on others in their. After this they are then reborn as new people in a new universe with no memory of their past life and if they are good people in the new universe then they will be rewarded like any other good person. They will never get the memories of the bad people they were back however.

Not all new universes are created for this reason. The first universe creates billions of copies of itself every second at random and they create billions of copies of themselves all with their own Nebulous'.

Now the reason God creates the universe is because in one of the realities, the souls of the good people send a particle back to before the creation of Heaven which God uses to create Heaven in the first place.

After creating all of this, God and the Angels continue to create more universes from their own paradise and ensure that a Nebulous will be placed around every new universe that is not created by them. (Should such a thing happen.)

Now the reason I find this comforting is that the afterlife promised in other religions doesn't entice me. Heaven would get boring, eternal return is horrifying as people will have to live out the worst versions of their lives forever. Reincarnation meanwhile creeps me out. (My explanation for reincarnation is that as the Nebulous is connected to all living things, yet contains the souls of everyone who have died, sometimes their memories seep into new people.)

To me this explains why there is something and not nothing, the problem of evil and provides a better version of the afterlife. I so hope it is true, but sadly there is no evidence for it of course. It's just a thought experiment.

What do you think of it?

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Old 14-01-2021, 06:18 PM
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Man-Made Beliefs/Theories about Reality, Consciousness, God and Purpose are flawed. Most of them are just "fluff" that doesn't work, but people just want to fight/disquss about them with heated anger all the time


You have to know things by doing lots of personal experiments, instead of blindly believing it because other people/institution has said it.

The trouble is to don't allow yourself to get into a "confirmational bias" wanting to believe something that just doesn't work!


Test new things out and see what works, that's the best advice I can give.

Getting lost into intellectual theories will drive you crazy - I've been there and it was really bad.


Test new things, and only care about what reallty works - You will be really happy, successful and peaceful with that advice.

I don't care how good, amazing and magical an idea can sound, if it doesn't work, get ridd of it.


That being said, instead of having a Near Death Experience you have have an Out of body experience.

They work and they are real.

I ask you to Don't believe me, I ask you to do it and experience them by yourself.


Consciouness is multi-dimensional, and Reality is multidimensional.

The "Afterlife" is nothing more than the final "out of body experience".


My theory is that the purpose of consciousness, is just individual experience, possible accross all of the different realities there are.

A constant, eternal, and dynamic personal adventure.

Playing different forms, different worlds, different societies values, different goals.


Darkness/Light, Good/Bad, Right/Wrong are defined by each society set of values.

It's just experience!

To some societies it will be good, for others it will be bad... and we will disquss until the end of times that thing - So that's why I say is all about EXPERIENCE without any good/bad label
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Old 14-01-2021, 07:34 PM
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Man-Made Beliefs/Theories about Reality, Consciousness, God and Purpose are flawed.
Most of them are just "fluff" that doesn't work, but people just want to fight/disquss about them with heated anger all the time
I don't find that, SF.
I see people toss out theories, ideas, beliefs or even profound experiences and we listen and take it in.
1 in 10, would be my guess, bring immature anger or their pride that wants to be right into the discussion.
Not all beliefs are flawed...many are based in love and hold a lot of water, as they say.
Don't be mad, pls --just my observation is different.
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That being said, instead of having a Near Death Experience you have have an Out of body experience.

The "Afterlife" is nothing more than the final "out of body experience".

A constant, eternal, and dynamic personal adventure.
Really liked these sentences.
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