Who made the Dinosaurs? God or Us?

[Maisy]

In Michael Newton books like the book "Journey Of Souls," people are put under hypnosis and hypnotically regressed or taken back to memories of when they were in between incarnations. According to some of these people's memories, we created everything on this earth and even the earth itself. Not you or me specifically, though who knows, maybe someone here made the dinosaurs. But basically we are here in a physical body or incarnation or we are in the energy dimension or astral world or "heaven" or whatever one calls it. That's our true "home."

As big as this earth is and all the stuff the 8 billion of us humans are doing and being, the astral world is much, much bigger. Really that's why it is hard to describe. It's not like describing one little town. It's too vast to describe. Not only is it huge, it is layered dimensionally by levels of vibration in my opinion. The more we advance spiritually, the more places we can go, even places few others have been, closer to the source or God I think. God is like the sun, at the deepest and highest level and it's "light" and vibration illuminates and moves through all levels beneath it.

In this huge astral world, the billions of souls there are doing all kinds of things. Too many things to describe. But some there create physical matter, solar systems, planets and so on. Some others work to populate these planets. Some make life forms. It's a skill and takes a certain level of "spiritual" advancement. It involves working with certain energies, manipulating matter etc. Low skill, beginner, you make one celled things. A very advanced soul or a team of souls worked on the ape altering it's DNA into what eventually became human. Just my opinion partly based on what people disclosed in their between life memories.

So in a way, the dinosaurs were an experiment or a work of art of sorts. Someone in the book remembered working on a planet's ecosystem and having to go back to try to balance things as one species was killing all the others. You would have to "tweak" the prey to be able to get away sometimes. Give the prey a high birth rate etc. Balance things out or balance things the best you can. That meteor that hit earth and wiped out the dinosaurs may not have been intentional but it could have been. If say they wanted to wipe out the dinosaurs as they found them too large for the environment. Or maybe it was an accident. Gods are imagined to know everything. Us not so much. We make mistakes in the physical world and I assume in the astral or energy world as well.

It makes more sense to me imagining we made all of this and not some all knowing God. It explains bed bugs and mosquitos and other bad inventions. I was wondering what kind of soul would be interested in making bugs or scary insects? Then I thought, probably one that sometimes incarnates as an ant. A lot of ants are like robots, following the line. But there's always a few doing their own thing. They wonder around. Look at stuff. Stare at the sky. Those I figure are higher souls. More aware than the average ant. But then someone in the book said human suited souls can't be other "lower" creatures. They don't mesh. But then maybe there is a department in heaven they don't know about. Where souls have figured out a way to go into insects.

[Miss Hepburn]

I wonder what we'd find googling things like-
-Who was here before Adam.
-Was there something before the Garden of Eden.
-Where did the story of Lilith come from.
I've run across some things on youtube that talk about a WHOLE other idea
of Man on earth...way different than the Bible story.

[Maisy]

If you look at the history of religion there are all these famous philosophers and theologians trying to figure out theories on why a good God creates or allows or does bad things on earth. They did come up with all kinds of reasons why. They somehow never considered the idea maybe it was not a God that created this world and the stuff in it.

Looking around my room, wow I have a lot of stuff. My desk is covered with stuff. My closet is packed. Stuff everywhere. All created by humans. Look in a Walmart. Tons of stuff. How many Walmarts are there? All full of stuff. Everything in there created by humans. If we as souls spend so much of our time on earth creating stuff, seems like we are really into it. Seems like everybody or a great many would be creating stuff in the between lives place as well.

Guess how many kinds of ants there are. I would guess 2 or 3 kinds. If a God made ants I think it would be 1. Why make more? If you are God? Now imagine a bunch of souls who used to be on earth in a body and are now in the astral world and are learning how to create living creatures in astral classes or schools that teach such things. Imagine the teacher says pick an existing species and alter it for a class assignment. Some may pick an ant. There are over 12,000 kinds of ants. 12,000 known species. Some experts estimate there are 20,000 different kinds. One God making all these kinds of ants makes no sense. Why would a God spend time designing 20,000 different kinds of ants? But imagine a school assignment in the astral world to alter an existing creature. I can imagine thousands of students over the centuries picking an ant. A bunch must have picked a Dog considering all the messed up dogs that can't even breathe or walk well. I can hear the student now, I'm going to make the legs like a few inches... So far 20 dog breeds have tiny legs.

You can see the short leg dogs creations here: https://www.countryliving.com/life/k...es-short-legs/

[Honza]

I would say the universal 'unconsciousness' made the dinosaurs. I believe that God can be unconscious. He is not just consciousness!

[sky]

IMO, they are a product of ‘cause and effect’…

[Miss Hepburn]

Originally Posted by sky

IMO, they are a product of ‘cause and effect’…

That's interesting. I think a person would have to be some super scientist
to explain dinosaurs as a cause and effect, tho.
If they came from or evolved from the sea ...then you would have to go backwards
to answer those questions that people could have!

[charly233]

I created the dinosaurs. Me and God are one. I am God.

[Miss Hepburn]

Originally Posted by Maisy

... trying to figure out theories on why a good God creates or allows or does bad things on earth.
They somehow never considered the idea maybe it was not a God that created this world and the stuff in it.

I know, right?
A Course In Miracles, ACIM©, addresses this. An 'alternate' answer is not for everyone, tho.
It is addresses: HOW does a 'good, loving, perfect' God create this place! And it addresses that God didn't. HA!

Here, I found this online:

"In A Course in Miracles (ACIM), the "world" as we perceive it is not considered God's creation,
but rather a temporary illusion or dream, born from misperception and fear.
The course teaches that God created only the eternal, which encompasses the true reality of pure spirit and the
loving thoughts that are the basis of creation.

ACIM states that the world we see with our physical eyes is not the ultimate reality, but rather a projection
of our own thoughts and beliefs, particularly the illusion of separation from God."

[Miss Hepburn]

Originally Posted by charly233

I created the dinosaurs. Me and God are one. I am God.

I have friends that say they are God, too.
I say to them, When you can create and sustain a Galaxy - ''Get back to me."
In other words, a ray of the Sun is not the Sun - a drop of the Ocean is not the Ocean....not exactly, now is it?
That's how my mind sees it anyway.

[J_A_S_G]

Originally Posted by Miss Hepburn

I think a person would have to be some super scientist
to explain dinosaurs as a cause and effect, tho.

Like Darwin?

The fingerprints of cause and effect are everywhere.

Cause - Supernovae
Effect - Nebulae seeded with the heavy elements cooked in these massive stars and compressed by the shock wave, forming proto-stars like the Sun with all the elements necessary for organic chemistry.

Cause - Cyanobacteria
Effect - Great Oxygenation Event which removed much of the methane in the atmosphere, causing massive glaciation and extinction of most other bacteria. This cleared the way for new organisms that preferred oxygen, leading to multi-cellular life, sexual reproduction and the Cambrian Explosion.

Cause - K/T Extinction meteor impact
Effect - Extinction of dinosaurs and rise of mammals

Those are three major cause and effect events that shaped the world we currently experience. There's a continuous string of cause and effect from the Big Bang. It all had to happen just as it did else we wouldn't be here. The big causes are easier to see than the uncounted small causes. They leave much larger fingerprints that withstand the test of time and thus they can be studied by scientific means.