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04-05-2025, 08:53 AM
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How would you define a person?
What is a 'person'? There are many people who would not call God a person. Is being a person superfluous to spirituality? Certainly it seems the case that people are unimportant in the grand scheme of things, because they die like flies.
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04-05-2025, 09:25 AM
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If you are God pretending to be an individual where does that leave personhood?
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04-05-2025, 09:28 AM
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For me the God that I am is the Person that I am. God is the I am, pure personality. At the same time God transcends the personal. God is both pure Being and the ground or field out,of which being or the person arises.
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06-05-2025, 02:17 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by charly233
For me the God that I am is the Person that I am. God is the I am, pure personality. At the same time God transcends the personal. God is both pure Being and the ground or field out,of which being or the person arises.
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A lot of people it seems to me come to the same kind of conclusion and actions. They contemplate their unhappiness and fear and so on, their negative thinking and what that leads to as far as experience and actions, and come to the conclusion the only way to find happiness is to somehow get free of their negative thinking patterns. One cannot control their thoughts. Thoughts are largely made in the subconscious and brain. So then the answer is not to "get rid of them" as one can't. The answer is to not identify with them. To separate oneself from them. It is never really we are the thinker or our thoughts. We are not this body either. We are not the brain and the content it creates. What's that saying, we are not a human having a God experience, we are a soul (God) having a human experience.
We can change our human experience by changing our relationship with our body and mind. Change our relationship with our thinking and thoughts.
“The primary cause of unhappiness is never the situation but your thoughts about it.”
― Eckhart Tolle, A New Earth: Awakening to Your Life's Purpose
“Realize deeply that the present moment is all you have. Make the NOW the primary focus of your life.”
― Eckhart Tolle, The Power of Now: A Guide to Spiritual Enlightenment
Change how much you focus on thought or pay attention to thought, or give "reality" to thought and you change your experience of now.
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06-05-2025, 03:43 PM
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We can change our human experience by changing our relationship with our body and mind.
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Great post imo Maisy, a lot of good information. But who is we. We is generally taken to be body. It then becomes a question who changes human experience. It is a spiritual change (awakening) as well. Consider soul (spirit) is having the experience. We still see it as body that changes. We do not want to realize that soul has free-will just as body does. We never imagined this. It is soul having a learning experience.
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06-05-2025, 04:35 PM
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What's that saying, we are not a human having a God experience, we are a soul (God) having a human experience.
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Absolutely. Thanks for that.
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06-05-2025, 04:48 PM
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Absolutely. Thanks for that.
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Maybe we are God having God's experience and the confusion is misinterpreting it as human experience? 
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06-05-2025, 04:51 PM
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Maybe we are God having God's experience and the confusion is misinterpreting it as human experience? 
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Oh yes! That makes a lot,of sense. Thanks.
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06-05-2025, 07:19 PM
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Quote:
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Maybe we are God having God's experience and the confusion is misinterpreting it as human experience? 
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Is there a difference? Being a smart *+#.
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Prepare yourself for the coming astral journey of death by daily riding in the balloon of God-perception.
Through delusion you are perceiving yourself as a bundle of flesh and bones...Meditate unceasingly, that you may
quickly behold yourself as the Infinite Essence, free from every form of misery. ~Paramahansa's Guru's Guru.
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04-05-2025, 12:43 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Honza
What is a 'person'?
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A soul inside a body of flesh to be able to exp this 3rd Dimension?
And when the flesh dies moves onto new experiences and adventures?
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Prepare yourself for the coming astral journey of death by daily riding in the balloon of God-perception.
Through delusion you are perceiving yourself as a bundle of flesh and bones...Meditate unceasingly, that you may
quickly behold yourself as the Infinite Essence, free from every form of misery. ~Paramahansa's Guru's Guru.
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