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05-10-2021, 01:00 PM
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QUOTE 401 EXCERPT:
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Originally Posted by zorkchop
It all depends on the level of existence / life one is discussing on how “real or unreal” each illusion is.
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That is both concise and precise relevant to the frequent discussions of "real or unreal".   
A corollary to that is that one often can easily intuit the "level of existence / life" of an entity as soon as they open their mouth on this subject. 
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05-10-2021, 01:22 PM
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QUOTE 395 EXCERPT:
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Originally Posted by zorkchop
Everything in the Lower Psychic Worlds is designed to misdirect.
One more time … this is not a proclamation against the Lower Psychic Worlds. They are designed to teach … and teach they do … whether we like it or not.
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Originally Posted by Miss Hepburn
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"Designed" ?  Interesting. Please elaborate.
This thread is starting to probe the "real" nature of the Reality. The "WHY" question invariably evokes some interesting points of view most of which have an implied anthropomorphic nature.
"Designed" ? Interesting.
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05-10-2021, 01:56 PM
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The Lower Psychic Worlds are directly contrary to what Soul is … Soul being pure individual consciousness … and the Lower Psychic Worlds wrapping Soul in various “bodies” or filters so as to force and provide “outer” experiences … to make the individual believe that the outer is vital to existence to make it all a “livingness of sensation” … when it is actually not to Soul Itself … but … admittedly … is … of and within the Lower Psychic Worlds themselves. Hope that makes sense.
To take it all a level more devious … the Negative Forces will use all their abilities to trap and keep Soul within the Lower Psychic Worlds … because that is their job … and they are superb at it. But an overview shows … that this is the only workable way to teach and train Soul Itself the level of strength, courage, perseverance, devotion, etc. necessary to escape … and other attributes of Soul Itself that one discovers once one steps firmly into Atma Lok. The only way to become that capable and knowing … is to constantly have obstacles thrown at you. It *makes* you contend with … and learn … and the unpleasantness of it all is often what drives Soul to “move beyond” in the first place … to “get out” of this schoolroom.
Thus … the overall design.
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05-10-2021, 02:38 PM
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Well said and explained zorkchop.I feel as if I'm back on track. 
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05-10-2021, 03:08 PM
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And just to make sure that it is understood … just what IS it … that is the trap?
Mind and emotions wanting to find another opinion … or “belief” … as offered by those around us. The feeding and deepening of those beliefs, etc. The discovery of “new” ones or the feeding of the old … all “designed” to keep the viewpoint or perception of Soul Itself … outside Itself … which … initially … Soul does not even know that ANY-thing exists other than the Lower Psychic Worlds.
The traps are what appeals or repels … to the mind, emotions, and physical body … through the sensations of pleasure or pain … like or dislike … all personally accepted by each individual. Vision and hearing are the main sensations. Thought … is “hearing” to the mind. Vision can be physical or metaphysical. Both … are “outer” … to Soul Itself.
It is really quite simple … when simplified as such. What complicates … is personal preference and resulting choices.
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05-10-2021, 05:23 PM
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Thank you zorkchop.
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05-10-2021, 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by hazada guess
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You meant I'll leave you to work it out myself!
Not, You'll leave Z to work it out....how funny!
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Prepare yourself for the coming astral journey of death by daily riding in the balloon of God-perception.
Through delusion you are perceiving yourself as a bundle of flesh and bones, which at best is a nest of troubles.
Meditate unceasingly, that you may quickly behold yourself as the Infinite Essence, free from every form of misery. ~Paramahansa's Guru's Guru.
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06-10-2021, 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Miss Hepburn
You meant I'll leave you to work it out myself!
Not, You'll leave Z to work it out....how funny!
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And it has been done.Z is a genius.
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06-10-2021, 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by hazada guess
Z is a genius.
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He is amazing...and why? Because he has done the work, steadfastly staid the course for many, many years.
AND has the gift of patience and clarity -shown in his ability to teach others.
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Prepare yourself for the coming astral journey of death by daily riding in the balloon of God-perception.
Through delusion you are perceiving yourself as a bundle of flesh and bones, which at best is a nest of troubles.
Meditate unceasingly, that you may quickly behold yourself as the Infinite Essence, free from every form of misery. ~Paramahansa's Guru's Guru.
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06-10-2021, 03:39 PM
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I appreciate the kind words but I am nothing special. I have had more personal experience than most … and it is from all of said experience that I speak from. Yet really … if I were a high school graduate talking to some freshman in the school … it would be the same thing. ( Terms are obviously relative. ) The various levels of mind would probably not take it as such … and might take what I put in some of these posts as offensive and threatening … but that’s to be expected. Experience allows you to speak from your own level of understanding.
But as always … on we go … each at our own level and at our own pace.
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