Hindu Yogis

Originally Posted by Miss Hepburn

Um, just saw this...I counter that with much can be achieved with devotion and prayer

Welcome Ma'am.

Yeah, that was a foolish thought when I caught and hold up with the knowledge of "No one can escape Karmic effects (Good/Bad) and one has to face it no matter whatever devotion and prayer made. If one does wants salvation (put an end to rebirth and reach God), then it can be done through devotion too. Some might say, 'only through devotion I achieved these', but it's not true, it's only by their action it had happened. Devotion to some results just brings faith in action, but it won't change anything. But, Devotion to God, it's far beyond action. Action ends in devotion to God. Other than devotion to God, only one's action determines the effects/results but not their devotion/prayer to that particular need. Even siddhis/boon in stories, it's not like devotion and the deities become mercy, but it's only their action which has a matrix code running behind and brings the result in the way one seeks/believes/wants, may be theistic/atheistic/whatever form."

This knowledge/thought/insight/anything, now I'm not bound towards that too.

I was ignorant and foolish. Yeah anything might happen from anything.

Let it happen whatever can happen, I don't know truly about them and found my opinions/knowledge/experience/insight doesn't matter, and just satisfied with whatever I am.

Thank you.

[Miss Hepburn]

Have a wonderful day, Viswa.

[Unseeking Seeker]

Tricky … this karma bit, brought about by misalignment. Valid, yes and yet may be dissolved by God’s will. Now, since God plays no favourites, perhaps the key is to vaporise. When there is no one here, there is no karma, past, present or
future.

It depends from what perspective we are looking at karma. If the dreamer and dreamed are one, then whatever happens is a dream, so of no consequence. Of course, the caveat here is whether the flame flickers or not … how still is our stillness, how rippleless is our awareness?

Apologies if this post seems vague.

Originally Posted by Unseeking Seeker

It depends from what perspective we are looking at karma.

Yup..They say, Beliefs and Perceptions moulds one view of a thing, and there are 'n' number of such perceptions with infinite meanings..Don't know whether everything is true or not.. Don't know now whether Karma is present or not..

Anything present/absent, so be it..

Originally Posted by Miss Hepburn

Have a wonderful day, Viswa.

You too Ma'am..

[kralaro]

Replying to first post, Ramakrishna is a worthy inclusion. His following quote gave me the push to become completely selfless:
"If the telegraph wire is broken, howsoever small the break may be, it will not convey your message."
Current people of this world say that first live a materialistic life and then in old age one can practice spirituality. But Ramakrishna used to say the opposite: that first get established in spirituality and then only live a worldly life. I like him. I don't remember the exact quote. Also, his quote which goes like if a child hasn't reached adulthood but hounds his parents for his share of property then parents may oblige, similarly if u r crazy about ur spiritual practice then God may oblige. Ramakrishna didn't say "crazy" in the quote, i'm recalling from my feeling. I like his attitude of reach God as soon as possible through whatever way.