God being a subject, not an object

[Moonglow]

Was watching a video on youtube called The Theory of Everything.
It is a series of interviews by Curt Jaimungal. Just got into watching some of these interviews.

The segment I was watching he was reading from a book called
Is God a taoist? By Raymond Smullyan. (Have not read myself, may check it out)
In which “man” is speaking to “God”

There was a part that was read in which God responded “I am not an object, but a subject”. This jumped out at me and find an interesting suggestion/idea/statement to explore.

So, in your view is God more of a subject then an object?

Is God something that through talking about God images are formed, but in essence is not some-thing, just is?

Other words I heard used for God are consciousness and awareness (for example). These just are happening. Just adding this to expand upon this.

Well, it is an interesting reflection for me

Welcome any input, insight, opinions, responses, ect for discussion

Thank you

Is God something that through talking about God images are formed, but in essence is not some-thing, just is?

Exactly.

[HITESH SHAH]

Originally Posted by Moonglow

There was a part that was read in which God responded “I am not an object, but a subject”.
Welcome any input, insight, opinions, responses, ect for discussion

Thank you

God is in-dwelling consciousness/spirit . So in that technically we are God or to be more precise part of God .In that sense He becomes subject in us when thinking/acting in sync with this spirit .

At the same time the God is everywhere . So when acting/thinking for God in others , he is object also .

So according to me it's subject and object both depending on the context we talk about.

[Moonglow]

Originally Posted by HITESH SHAH

At the same time the God is everywhere . So when acting/thinking for God in others , he is object also .
So according to me it's subject and object both depending on the context we talk about.

Hi HITESH SHAH,

I also conceive God being both subject and object, as well as neither, lol.

It is the neither part that, suppose, may defy the logical part of the mind.
The part that wants it to be either this or that.

Yes, if taken “God is everywhere”, then “we” are a part of God. Some may suggest “we” are God. This may seem blasphemy if taken God in the religious sense, suppose.

In the Consciousness sense and awareness sense, if taken God are these, then “we” are always conscious and aware, aren’t “we”? If so, then this called God is always present.

Just sharing some thoughts that come at the moment.

Yes, as a subject depends upon the context as to what may be spoken/written about.

Thank you

[Anala]

Moon glow,

I was curious, when I read the thread title and the first thought that came to mind is that maybe, god is not a subject or an object, but a verb.

Are we not the tool of god when we are in motion and or stillness, in quiet reflection? Just a thought.

[BigJohn]

Moonglow,
your thread reads as animistic: one of the oldest if not oldest belief systems in existence.

[Miss Hepburn]

Definition of animism

1 : a doctrine that the vital principle of organic development is immaterial spirit
2 : attribution of conscious life to objects in and phenomena of nature or to inanimate objects
3 : belief in the existence of spirits separable from bodies

[Miss Hepburn]

Originally Posted by Moonglow

So, in your view is God more of a subject then an object?
Is God... in essence is not some-thing, just is?

To me: God would be subject and object and a bag of chips.
'Not some-thing, just is?' Yes not, and yes just is.

[BigJohn]

Originally Posted by Miss Hepburn

Definition of animism

1 : a doctrine that the vital principle of organic development is immaterial spirit
2 : attribution of conscious life to objects in and phenomena of nature or to inanimate objects
3 : belief in the existence of spirits separable from bodies

Pretty good definitions.

In the East, Animism is practiced a lot.

In the West, people generally have no idea what Animism is about.

[Moonglow]

Originally Posted by Anala

Moon glow,


Are we not the tool of god when we are in motion and or stillness, in quiet reflection? Just a thought.

Hi Anala,

I do not know if “we” are so much as a “ tool of god”, as much as God in motion and reflection. Just a thought.

Thank you