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Old 13-12-2020, 03:53 PM
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Nirvana

I was watching adocumentary and this guy, Stephen Wolinsky, touched some subjects including Nirvana, so he said that Nirvana is actually the complete erase of the "I", the annihilation of the "I". Is this how Nirvana is actually understood?

In my thinking, the "I" can never be erased or annihilated, it is ever present, the "I am" is ever present, it can only expand to a greater "I" or shrink to a more compact "I", we are this more compact "I", you know, a separated entity from all the others.

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Old 13-12-2020, 04:39 PM
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I dunno..Nirvana, Samadhi, Satchitananda by many names...you're
in such a state...
you don't even know you have a butt on a pillow let alone an 'I'.
I mean it...later you do...not in those moments of awe and wow.
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Old 13-12-2020, 06:01 PM
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I was watching adocumentary and this guy, Stephen Wolinsky, touched some subjects including Nirvana, so he said that Nirvana is actually the complete erase of the "I", the annihilation of the "I". Is this how Nirvana is actually understood?

In my thinking, the "I" can never be erased or annihilated, it is ever present, the "I am" is ever present, it can only expand to a greater "I" or shrink to a more compact "I", we are this more compact "I", you know, a separated entity from all the others.

What are your thoughts?



Different School's in Buddhism have slightly different ideas on what Buddha meant by Nirvana so I would suggest you do a little research

They do all agree though that the word Nirvana is a state were the fires that cause suffering and dissatisfaction ( Dukkha ) have been extinguished.

I disagree with Stephen Wolinsky.....


This might help,

https://alanpeto.com/buddhism/understanding-nirvana/
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Old 13-12-2020, 08:41 PM
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Different School's in Buddhism have slightly different ideas on what Buddha meant by Nirvana so I would suggest you do a little research

They do all agree though that the word Nirvana is a state were the fires that cause suffering and dissatisfaction ( Dukkha ) have been extinguished.

I disagree with Stephen Wolinsky.....


This might help,

https://alanpeto.com/buddhism/understanding-nirvana/
If its not fire then its probably water. It's the flow state.
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Old 13-12-2020, 09:26 PM
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If its not fire then its probably water. It's the flow state.



They say that there are three ' Fires ' that Buddhist seek to extinguish in order to find Nirvana, passion, aversion and ignorance (delusion).

What do you mean by the flow state ?
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Old 13-12-2020, 10:27 PM
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I dunno..Nirvana, Samadhi, Satchitananda by many names...you're
in such a state...
you don't even know you have a butt on a pillow let alone an 'I'.
I mean it...later you do...not in those moments of awe and wow.

That's... the "I am" state, the state of "no state".

Are you able to mantain this "state no state" in all situations?
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Old 13-12-2020, 10:33 PM
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Different School's in Buddhism have slightly different ideas on what Buddha meant by Nirvana so I would suggest you do a little research

They do all agree though that the word Nirvana is a state were the fires that cause suffering and dissatisfaction ( Dukkha ) have been extinguished.

I disagree with Stephen Wolinsky.....


This might help,

https://alanpeto.com/buddhism/understanding-nirvana/

That's the thing, people have different ideas of what Nirvana means, only Buddha knew exactly what he was referring to.

I agree, they all understand that Nirvana frees one from the fires of the fleshly body.

I too disagree with Stephen Wolinsky, his interpretations is no different from what an atheist would say.
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That's... the "I am" state, the state of "no state".
Are you able to maintain this "state no state" in all situations?
Are you kidding? No.


(I mean, not yet.)
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Old 14-12-2020, 01:07 AM
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Are you kidding? No.


(I mean, not yet.)

Neither I... :)
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Old 14-12-2020, 06:59 AM
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That's the thing, people have different ideas of what Nirvana means, only Buddha knew exactly what he was referring to.

I agree, they all understand that Nirvana frees one from the fires of the fleshly body.

I too disagree with Stephen Wolinsky, his interpretations is no different from what an atheist would say.




' I too disagree with Stephen Wolinsky, his interpretations is no different from what an atheist would say. '


Don't forget TM most Buddhist are Atheists....

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