Dreams Explained

I made a post in my ongoing thread in meditation section about dreams and Miss H advised me bring that somehow to this section, so i am reposting that post here as a new thread.

[b]like many other likewise spiritual phenomena, dreams are also hugely misunderstood. Dreams do not have any relation with suppressed desires etc as claimed by the most professionals of the field. Dreams represent something different altogether. Hinduism does not go in the details of dreams but Islam does. Islam says that there are three types of dreams- Khwaab, Basharat and Nazeer. Khwaab means normal dreams which we experience generally. Basharat means revelations or good news in Arabic. So, as its literal meaning suggests these kind of dreams convey specific message. The last one is Nazeer which means Observant or spectator in Arabic. This form of the dreams is the rarest one which happens just like a vision and may happen without completely falling asleep.

To understand dreams, we have to go back to the cross section of the humans, which i mentioned in the starting of the thread.

Humans are not a singular life form but our soul also resides within us. As it is a different life form so it has its own mind which we understand as subconscious while human mind is conscious. As our soul comes from different higher spiritual realms and it had its own life there before entrapped in human cage. It implies that the soul must had its own nears and dears as we human have here. But, after being caged in human wrap, the soul is being cut off from its life. That is where dreams step in and fill the gap.
In other words, dreams are nothing but the represent our soul's life where it interacts with its own kind who are left behind.

So, as a thumb rule, dreams do not have any relation with our human life tough that may happen in very rare cases, especially during Nazeer and sometime in Basharat too. In some rare cases. some dreams are designed and meant for human mind. One thing i want to make it clear here that we do not see the dreams rather, dreams are shown to us.

When we are awake, our human mind takes charge and plays active role while soul's mind becomes passive and just observes what is happening in its counterpart. This arrangement reverses when we fall asleep. Now, soul's mind becomes active and takes the driver's seat and human mind silently witness what is happening. This is exactly what dreams are. In dreams. human mind just witness the activities of the soul's mind but it cannot interfere.

As dreams are all about soul's life so whomsoever we see in the dreams are never related to our human life. No dead or alive from this world ever comes in our dreams. It means that if one is seeing his high school teacher in the dream, it means that the teacher of its soul has come to visit from spiritual realm. But, as it is forbidden from the humans to know about spiritual realms so spiritual visitors change their faces in order to confuse our human mind with the people we know here. I do not know how they do it but they can do it but their appearance do not change much.



As members here have not read my previous posts so there may be parts in my post which need further explanation and i will be happy to provide that.

Those who are interested below is the link of my ongoing thread. Members can post their all queries there.

https://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/s...d.php?t=139923

with love,
sanjay

[django]

Originally Posted by zinnat

I made a post in my ongoing thread in meditation section about dreams and Miss H advised me bring that somehow to this section, so i am reposting that post here as a new thread.

like many other likewise spiritual phenomena, dreams are also hugely misunderstood....

Hi sanjay, since it’s specifically about dreams I’d like to respond here. I like the way you say this “ When we are awake, our human mind takes charge and plays active role while soul's mind becomes passive and just observes what is happening in its counterpart. This arrangement reverses when we fall asleep. Now, soul's mind becomes active and takes the driver's seat and human mind silently witness what is happening. This is exactly what dreams are. In dreams. human mind just witness the activities of the soul's mind but it cannot interfere.”

Lucid dreaming is an exception to your last line.

I don’t agree with your idea that the soul is interacting with other souls though, I believe dreams are reflections of our psycho emotional state, as well as the state of our subtle energy body.

[django]

As far as I know, and I’m pretty sure, lucid dreamers can change the action in a dream. Tibetan Buddhists train to do this exactly “ People who practice this through Meditation and Dream Yoga are able to gain conscious control over the elements within a dream.” AFAIK they deliberately try to change the outcome of their dreams.

[Miss Hepburn]

Cool, zinnat - so many more will see this topic now!
(And I meant it as 'suggestion' only, like a good idea.)

And, oh my, can Lucid dreamers ever change what is going on in a dream!
(They are weird experiences to me! But, fascinating!!!)

Glad you pointed out Freud got so much wrong!

Originally Posted by django

As far as I know, and I’m pretty sure, lucid dreamers can change the action in a dream. Tibetan Buddhists train to do this exactly “ People who practice this through Meditation and Dream Yoga are able to gain conscious control over the elements within a dream.” AFAIK they deliberately try to change the outcome of their dreams.

Diango,

What you said goes very much against the basic mechanism of dreaming process.

People do not realize this but dreams do not occur live. These are an abbreviated and disguised versions of soul's life which are shown to us later. If you read other threads in this forum or anywhere else, you will find that many people report seeing the same dream again and again. That can be possible only when dreams are not live but shown later. You will also find that in dreams people somehow become aware what is going to happen next. Again, that can be possible only when all that has been already happened in the past.

And, no one can change the past, Tibetan Buddhists or not. What happens sometimes, especially in the eastern religions, that the scriptures lose their true meaning after being translated again and again.

with love,
sanjay

Let me make the next post about the dreams in hope that it may clear some issues which other members are raising.

As i said many times in the thread before that one somehow has to get all the basics right before drawing any further conclusions. No answers can be found without that. Many members raised the question of being conscious and in control during sleep, especially during lucid dreaming.

Let me share my understanding of the issue.

To find answers of the question in hand, we have to go back to the basics, which is what is the default mechanism of having dreams. i have not seen this anywhere on the net as of now but the thing is that dreams do not occur live, as it is generally assumed. Dreams are not live telecast of soul's activities but some sort of abbreviated and disguised version of whatever has been happened in the soul's life recently.

As science says that we do not dream all time during sleep but merely 1/5 duration of it but soul continues its activity during the whole time of the sleep and sometimes even when we are awake. That means that we do not see total activities of the soul in the dreams but merely a part of it. So, to keep us informed whatever has been happened in the life of soul recently, its activity has to be sorted and edited to make it possible to convey all the necessary information in some minutes.

That means that whatever we see in the dreams has been happened in the past already so there is no possibility of changing it by taking control in dreams, lucid or otherwise. This is not that hard to conclude. If we look at the dreams forum here or anywhere else also, we will find that people often report repetition of the same dream again and again. Now, how that can be possible if we consider that our dreams are live? How can one relive the exact moments again and again? We know that it is not possible. That brings to what i suggested above that we see only the past of soul's live in the dreams. not present. And, if we take that as a premise, then there cannot be any possibility that dreamer can change the course of the dream in any way, lucid or not because no one can change the past.

I want to mention one more thing here. One can find many such reports of such dreams where the dreamer gets the feeling that he/she already knows what is going to happen next in the dream. That can be possible only if all that has been happened already.

with love,
sanjay

I have gone through many threads of this forum and saw many questions there, especially regarding dreams which members saw. It is not possible for me to reply in every thread so i am making this post as the explanation of most common types of dreams which happen during spiritual journey. it may not cover all queries but members can enquire further here for their specific dreams. But please post your query in this thread only instead of making new thread as that may go unnoticed by me.

1. one may see one or many injured/disabled people or cutting any part of the body of any other person. It is a good sign as it indicates that the dreamer is fighting and winning over spiritual entities.

2. one may see totally naked women both in dreams and sometimes in the visions too. it is again a good sign. Most powers of the spiritual realms are in female form. Seeing naked women means the dreamer has acquired that particular power.

3. another very common type of dream is seeing or playing with any kind of ball. It is not a good sign not spiritually but for the human life of the dreamer. Playing with the ball means the dreamer is going to face difficulties in his routine life as destiny is going to play with him.

4. one may see fighting of any kind, both one to one and in groups too. It is perhaps the most common type of dream. If one or his side is winning then it is good. In the same way if one or his side is losing then it is bad but all that has nothing to with the human life of the dreamer.

5. one may dream about some kind of door locked or unlocked. If the door is locked. it means that the dreamer has reached a new threshold spiritually. And, if one sees breaking of opening of the lock, it means that one has crossed that threshold, which is a good sign.

6. Seeing flowers of any kind with countable pedals, especially lotus and rose is a good sign. These represents different chakras. one sees in when it become able to any enter any chakra spiritually.

7. seeing piles of **** or waste in the dream is a good sign. These represent wealth.

8. seeing a pile of women shoes is a good sign.

9. seeing any kind of birds, especially white is a good sign. Birds represent angels.

10. seeing or travelling in a very huge sea-ship is a good sign. Huge sea-ship represents Archangel Gabriel, which is also known as jibrail in Islam. he appears in one's dreams only the dreamer is supposed to travel high spiritual realms.

11- seeing any vehicle or riding is a good sign. in the same way seeing or using any weapon is a good sign too. Both represents acquiring new spiritual powers.

12- seeing any doctor or hospital or operation theatre is a good sign. it means that one is being taken care of by spiritual entities.

13- seeing anyone lying on any kind of stairs is good sign, whether the stairs are going up or down.

14. seeing any kind of book/ledger/pen is again a good sign. it means that one's spiritual journey is very much on. The same is for getting stamped anywhere on the body.

15- seeing small bees or likewise insects is not a good sign. It means that one is going to face difficulties both spiritually and in human life too.

Well, i have mentioned some according to my experience but there may be many other too. I would be happy to answer but please post only in this thread otherwise i may miss.

with love,
sanjay

[quote=zinnat]Diango,
What you said goes very much against the basic mechanism of dreaming process.
People do not realize this but dreams do not occur live. These are an abbreviated and disguised versions of soul's life which are shown to us later. If you read other threads in this forum or anywhere else, you wi

[django]

Sensory Incorporation occurs while dreaming (external stimuli get incorporated into our dreams) - Evidence that the dream is being created in the moment.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/b...tion-in-dreams

Originally Posted by django

Sensory Incorporation occurs while dreaming (external stimuli get incorporated into our dreams) - Evidence that the dream is being created in the moment.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/b...tion-in-dreams

Like Sigmund Frued, the writer of that article also does not have any idea what is she talking about. She is clearly putting horses behind the cart instead of the front as she is claiming that sensory inputs affects the dreams which in reality it is other way around.

Secondly, body experiencing sensory stimuli is not the sign of dreams happening live. Think of seeing Tv of films. we can get aroused by seeing porn of cheerful while seeing comedy series. That does not mean is what is happening on the Tv screen is happening live. The same happens in the dreams too.

with love,
sanjay