Are OBEs "Real?"

[Native spirit]

I dont read books i go by my own Experiences and i know OBE'S are real i have them ,i dont have to meditate to get them they are instant.



Namaste

[Miss Hepburn]

I second that. OBEs sure are real.

seem very real to me

[Apakhana Akshobhya]

Originally Posted by lomax

In any case,i think OOBE it's the ultimate goal of every meditation-practise.Consider your self lucky and blessed guys.

I was taught to meditate because there's very specific things to do at specific times in order to create enough distance from mind and body. What I ended up realizing is that OBEs themselves are a tangent circumstance that can happen but we still make the same mistakes while out of body and it's the self-biased perception errors that keep us tied into this material "realm" here in the first place.

[SpiritualFreedom]

Originally Posted by Apakhana Akshobhya

I was taught to meditate because there's very specific things to do at specific times in order to create enough distance from mind and body. What I ended up realizing is that OBEs themselves are a tangent circumstance that can happen but we still make the same mistakes while out of body and it's the self-biased perception errors that keep us tied into this material "realm" here in the first place.

One time I did chew a bubble gum and also used a calculator while "Out of Body", I had the same 100% sensations and experience as in "normal life", but this time I was in my real "spiritual body"

Is incomprehensible to people to understand it, when they haven't experienced it themselves.

You don't know, what you don't know.

There a lot of mysteries that science don't know.

I always have said that the only to prove this "OBE" stuff to be Objectively Real & Accepted in our world - Is to research & develop a multi-dimensional projector in order to see objective proof & evidence that other worlds and dimensions are real, and we have "non-human" spiritual bodies "parked" in another world while playing the "human life".

Until then, keep your OBE's for yourself and share them with a group of like-minded people.

If consciousness come out from the human brain, we would be inmortal.

Because anytime a human would die, you could "repair" their consciousness signal like a battery, putting brain cells together.

You could take dead people from the cementary, "repair their brains", and make them conscious again.

But that doesn't work, because consciousness comes from our "spiritual body", and the human body is just a virtual vehicle.

If consciousness come from the brain, take a dead person from the cementery from 2 years ago, and make them consciousnes again by rewiring his brain like Dr. Frankenstein. Until then, stop saying that consciousness comes from the brian, because it isn't.

[Miss Hepburn]

Originally Posted by Apakhana Akshobhya

I was taught to meditate because there's very specific things to do at specific times in order to create enough distance from mind and body. What I ended up realizing is that OBEs themselves are a tangent circumstance that can happen but we still make the same mistakes while out of body and
it's the self-biased perception errors that keep us tied into this material "realm" here in the first place.

[lomax]

Originally Posted by SpiritualFreedom

One time I did chew a bubble gum and also used a calculator while "Out of Body", I had the same 100% sensations and experience as in "normal life", but this time I was in my real "spiritual body"

Is incomprehensible to people to understand it, when they haven't experienced it themselves.

You don't know, what you don't know.

There a lot of mysteries that science don't know.

I always have said that the only to prove this "OBE" stuff to be Objectively Real & Accepted in our world - Is to research & develop a multi-dimensional projector in order to see objective proof & evidence that other worlds and dimensions are real, and we have "non-human" spiritual bodies "parked" in another world while playing the "human life".

Until then, keep your OBE's for yourself and share them with a group of like-minded people.

If consciousness come out from the human brain, we would be inmortal.

Because anytime a human would die, you could "repair" their consciousness signal like a battery, putting brain cells together.

You could take dead people from the cementary, "repair their brains", and make them conscious again.

But that doesn't work, because consciousness comes from our "spiritual body", and the human body is just a virtual vehicle.

If consciousness come from the brain, take a dead person from the cementery from 2 years ago, and make them consciousnes again by rewiring his brain like Dr. Frankenstein. Until then, stop saying that consciousness comes from the brian, because it isn't.

Or you can travel to another person's location and then describe how he-she looks like,etc.This could be a solid proof of a real OOBE.

[Still_Waters]

Originally Posted by lomax

Some people claim it's expansion.Like spiritual freedom said,you're allready there,but when you go out of body,your consiousness expands.
I don't know.

The only time i had an OOBE,i found my self outside of my body,lookin at it,being fully consious that for some reason i had seperated from the flesh.I remember the returning,trying to find the right way to 'enter' my physical.(lol).

"Expansion" is quite an interesting way to describe the manifestation.

[Still_Waters]

Originally Posted by Apakhana Akshobhya

I was taught to meditate because there's very specific things to do at specific times in order to create enough distance from mind and body. What I ended up realizing is that OBEs themselves are a tangent circumstance that can happen but we still make the same mistakes while out of body and it's the self-biased perception errors that keep us tied into this material "realm" here in the first place.

Meditation does indeed "create enough distance from mind and body".

[lomax]

Originally Posted by Apakhana Akshobhya

I was taught to meditate because there's very specific things to do at specific times in order to create enough distance from mind and body. What I ended up realizing is that OBEs themselves are a tangent circumstance that can happen but we still make the same mistakes while out of body and it's the self-biased perception errors that keep us tied into this material "realm" here in the first place.

Good post.