A deep question about personal drives.

Originally Posted by Rah nam

I have seen a person that was unconscious, there was not much life I could detect.

Not unconscious, THE unconscious if you're going down that road.

[Miss Hepburn]

Originally Posted by hallow

This is a deep question. If life is a product of your the illusion of your subconscious. (Not a big believer in this but no one truly really knows.) But anyway if it is where do personal drives come from? A lot of people say it's enviromental or personal experiences. But what about those deep down drivers environment had nothing to do with?

This is an excellent topic, hallow.

[hallow]

Originally Posted by Greenslade

It depends on the individual - some have inherent morals while others have learned morals. Others non at all. All of your reality is a feedback loop with your conscious/Jungian ego and your unconscious, but your unconscious comprises of some 90-95% of your total consciousness.

just speaking from my own experience, I have learned traits and I can understand where it comes from, family teaching along with what I learned from experience in my environment. But there traits and beliefs that are entirely different from what I experienced. Way different from family "dna" so to speak. I always wondered where that comes from. It's a strange feeling because of those differences I never was close to any family members for any amount of time.

[lemex]

Originally Posted by hallow

This is a deep question. If life is a product of your the illusion of your subconscious. (Not a big believer in this but no one truly really knows.) But anyway if it is where do personal drives come from? A lot of people say it's enviromental or personal experiences. But what about those deep down drivers environment had nothing to do with?

I love this question. What are our observation. I would say this is actually a great definition of illusion and how it works. Things could (would) be different question. This is the question of nurture or nature. The environment being nurture. The point of the family environment affects us and we are taught. Change this element, and teaching as well, and the person would be different (change). This then is the illusion experience brings which is not reality but experience, illusion is dependent and conditional. Experience determine illusion and we create on it, reality. So is outside (environment) important. If I could go back in the past and change the experience I would not be the same if experience changes. I know I (it) would be different. In fact we go through this process all the time. How many times we think change is linked to environment, the outside. I think it is important to realize any outside is important and able to change us, parent, society, culture, teaching, all represent outside and all are part of our environment. Change environment, change nurture, creates change. The importance of outside.

A subject that interests Evolutionary Psychiatrists. A related question is why are there two genders in almost everything organic on the planet?
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Originally Posted by hallow

just speaking from my own experience, I have learned traits and I can understand where it comes from, family teaching along with what I learned from experience in my environment. But there traits and beliefs that are entirely different from what I experienced. Way different from family "dna" so to speak. I always wondered where that comes from. It's a strange feeling because of those differences I never was close to any family members for any amount of time.

While we are not our environment we are always in a 'feedback loop' with it, so while it does affect us we also affect it to a certain degree. How it affects us is individual though. I grew up in a small town with small town attitudes and I hated the place up until I joined the air force. I was different to my environment and the people in it while I lived in it and liked it even less after having lived out of the bubble. While I loved my parents they understood my leaving.

[hallow]

Originally Posted by Greenslade

While we are not our environment we are always in a 'feedback loop' with it, so while it does affect us we also affect it to a certain degree. How it affects us is individual though. I grew up in a small town with small town attitudes and I hated the place up until I joined the air force. I was different to my environment and the people in it while I lived in it and liked it even less after having lived out of the bubble. While I loved my parents they understood my leaving.

good points.

[hallow]

Originally Posted by Lorelyen

A subject that interests Evolutionary Psychiatrists. A related question is why are there two genders in almost everything organic on the planet?
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it's to promote diversity.