Are We In Heaven Now?

[athribiristan]

Originally Posted by michael55

A Course In Miracles says that we are in Heaven now, and all that humans must do to see it is to recognize it or accept it. Is that true?

Heaven is a state of mind....some are there now, many are not.

Originally Posted by athribiristan

Heaven is a state of mind....some are there now, many are not.

Two men entered into Heaven without dying. Enoch and Elijah, they were righteous, and through the blood of Jesus Christ, these are made righteous to stand before the throne of God and to enter into Heaven.

Thought it was an interesting piece of trivia to share, who are the only two men to enter alive into Heaven...

[psychoslice]

Those who believe that there is a heaven waiting for them is the future are going to be waiting forever, heaven is here, NOW, its within you. The ego will try its hardest to keep you out of this heaven, it has weaved its words of lies among the words that point you to your inner Being, we must read the so called Gospel with inner discernment, for if we don't we will miss out on our inheritances.

The mistake some use in using their discernment in Scripture is that they are judging Scripture, when Scripture should be judging them. They are not the standard in which Scripture is to be rejected, but Scripture is the standard mankind is to be judged. One promotes and elevates the self, as the article describing the worldly says, others use the word or label Christian, thinking they are fooling God.

[psychoslice]

Those who adhere to ever word of the scriptures, will only know of the words, they will never adventure away from the words, the words of any scriptures are just that, words. There comes a time in spiritual development when we must drop the words and enter our true Being, don't eat the menu, but taste the beauty within.This is the Christ that is within me, that these words come to the surface, go within your Being and there you will also commune with your inner Christ, this is the only place you can ever trust.

Theo said it best in post one in regards to proverbs 1:4,5 http://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/sh...ad.php?t=11823

[psychoslice]

Yes some are stuck in the words and can't seem to get out, this again is the mind, it just wont let the words go, it will continue on reading the words in all matter of ways, this way it will fool itself to believe that what it continues to read is all brand new, when in fact its just the same old dribble.

Many will also use the words of scripture as a weapon, they will throw all sort of words at you, in the hope of winning their arguments, they will in most cases throw the cross of Jesus, so as to keep you in their projected guilty world, these people seriously need to move on from just the words.

[Lightspirit]

Originally Posted by Dilchannan

No we are not in "Heaven" right now...We will know without a shadow of a doubt once we are in Heaven...I can only imagine...(what a beautiful song)..

Peace

I hope you are right. If this is heaven, whats normal life and hell like?

[psychoslice]

Originally Posted by lightworkerAu

I hope you are right. If this is heaven, whats normal life and hell like?

There is no hell, its just your perception, if you could realize that we are all much more than the mere mind body, then you would see the truth that we are all that IS. We are all ONE, in this Oneness there is what we believe to be, good and bad, you cannot have good without the bad, that is as long as you believe in these. Drop the belief and you will just see what IS, that is God being good and God being bad, or you can just see God. This is what the story of Adam and Eve was about, they started to believe in good and bad, so this separated them from who they truly were, in this separation they now live by the sweat of their brow, meaning, their life is now much harder than before, or much more miserable. Return to your Oneness in Consciousness and then live within heaven, once again.

Most Christians know they are not the flesh. We are soul and spirit.

One must remember what Heaven is. What Heaven is not. If there is wickedness, hate, war, anger, deception, etc....in the world you live in, it is not Heaven. jmb

Peace to all