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07-06-2020, 10:07 PM
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Ascender
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The relationship between change and the passage of time
Hello all.
Wondering what thoughts we might share concerning the relationship between change-- of whatever sort-- and the passage of time--of whatever duration.
petex
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07-06-2020, 11:20 PM
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Master
Join Date: Oct 2017
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Not sure what you're pointing at. On this physical plane, thought materialization (change) isn't instantaneous; it takes time. Time is a dimension of the physical plane.
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08-06-2020, 07:45 AM
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Master
Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: The green & pleasant land
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These past few weeks I feel I've mostly lost a sense of time. The sense was lessening before, and before that glimpses of no time. But then what I have just written is a sense of time. If I think of things from the past it doesn't seem real. As though it was another life. My face in the mirror looks different than it used to . The leaves on the tree outside my kitchen window get bigger each day. I've got a feeling there is no actual time. It's just a tool for use on this plane.
What do you think Pete?
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08-06-2020, 02:49 PM
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Hi... In real terms, as in the existence of the universe, time does not exist. And yet from the second we are born, we are ruled by time.
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09-06-2020, 03:45 AM
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Ascender
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Hello.
My simple thoughts on the subject include questioning whether change is always dependent upon the passage of time?--however brief that moment may be.
petex
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09-06-2020, 09:58 AM
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Master
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It's all happening in the now .
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10-06-2020, 10:50 PM
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Ascender
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Hello.
If we were to choose to explore the proposition that change is indeed dependent upon the passage of time, then we might also ponder upon the functioning of "cause and consequence" as also being subject to this same dependency.
Such pondering may perhaps take us on a tangent away from what seems logical toward the conjectural--wondering perhaps if the relationship between change and the passage of time is itself somehow connected in terms of cause and consequence?--and which is cause and which is consequence?
The original proposition may prove to be not valid in all circumstances, but the exploration may nevertheless be fruitful.
petex
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11-06-2020, 11:06 AM
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How Does Personal Identity Persist Through Time?
Some food for thought.
How do identity and consciousness persist through time? Is the self an illusion? Decades roll by; every molecule of our bodies changes many times. Yet our sense of self remains the same; continuous, a unity. How can this be? Featuring interviews with Simon Blackburn, Stephen Law, Richard Swinburne, Robert Bilder, and Roger Walsh.
Season 12, Episode 5 - #CloserToTruth
https://youtu.be/zCuamndTFak
Isn't that what spirituality is all about? To touch That which is deep within and beyond time and change?
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11-06-2020, 02:00 PM
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No time to answer right now, but that should change in time.
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11-06-2020, 06:58 PM
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Master
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: Golden Bay, New Zealand
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JustASimpleGuy
How do identity and consciousness persist through time? Is the self an illusion? Decades roll by; every molecule of our bodies changes many times. Yet our sense of self remains the same; continuous, a unity. How can this be? Featuring interviews with Simon Blackburn, Stephen Law, Richard Swinburne, Robert Bilder, and Roger Walsh.
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It does not take a genius to work out that our sense of self remains constant although our physical bodies are always changing because our sense of self has nothing to do with the body.
What does puzzle me is why it requires interviews with five people to investigate this??
Peace
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