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30-10-2020, 06:56 AM
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Originally Posted by sentient
Somebody had said: “White man expects instant answers for questions which take an injun a year to answer”
Why is that Ajahn Phaelyn?
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Impatience
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30-10-2020, 08:33 AM
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Master
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I'm no teacher lol. I'm the dishwasher who contemplates reality. I share my spiritual views in the loving nurturing space known as the internet and then people call me names and make up disparaging things to say about me. I'd say if you take a year to answer you are not really interested in answers or questions. I am a quarter Pomo. Half Italian. I don't self identify as a human body so don't really focus on "race." We are all the same no matter what body we have in my view. Though my Italian grandfather would pick up snails outside, put them in a frying pan with garlic and olive oil and eat them..... that was different. My 100% Pomo grandfather became a Jehovah's Witness and didn't want to identify as a Native American. He refused to register his children with his tribe which was bad for me. I would have liked to be on my tribes roles.
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Amazingly, I have met quite a few Pomos.
Just like your grandfather Phaelyn, they all seem to have had a serious break to the continuity of their cultural identity.
Missionaries? Forced boarding schools?
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30-10-2020, 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by sentient
Amazingly, I have met quite a few Pomos.
Just like your grandfather Phaelyn, they all seem to have had a serious break to the continuity of their cultural identity.
Missionaries? Forced boarding schools?
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Oh that's an interesting question. My guess is the Pomo's in California didn't really have a large reservation until the mid 1980's when they bought some land in Willits. They historically lived along the Eel river in Northern California and I'm guessing they never got ownership of that land and were eventually forced out. So Pomo's like my grandfather lived "in town" and perhaps hid his heritage to fit in, to avoid discrimination. That's my guess anyway.
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31-10-2020, 04:13 AM
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Master
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Originally Posted by Phaelyn
Oh that's an interesting question. My guess is the Pomo's in California didn't really have a large reservation until the mid 1980's when they bought some land in Willits. They historically lived along the Eel river in Northern California and I'm guessing they never got ownership of that land and were eventually forced out. So Pomo's like my grandfather lived "in town" and perhaps hid his heritage to fit in, to avoid discrimination. That's my guess anyway.
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Didn’t enter into ‘not-knowing’ or anything – but with so many mixed and complex thoughts and feelings about the subject, I think my brain just short-circuited.
However Phaelyn - I am so sorry what had happened to your grandfather’s people.
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31-10-2020, 04:47 AM
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Originally Posted by sentient
Amazingly, I have met quite a few Pomos.
Just like your grandfather Phaelyn, they all seem to have had a serious break to the continuity of their cultural identity.
Missionaries? Forced boarding schools?
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Green frog skin religion ?
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31-10-2020, 04:54 AM
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Originally Posted by sentient
Didn’t enter into ‘not-knowing’ or anything – but with so many mixed and complex thoughts and feelings about the subject, I think my brain just short-circuited.
However Phaelyn - I am so sorry what had happened to your grandfather’s people.
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Also very sorry for this, Phaelyn
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31-10-2020, 05:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Phaelyn
I would have liked to be on my tribes roles.
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The roles maybe still open for applying.
It may take some work on your end.
Not sure which band your people are from but
here is a link to the Pinoleville band.
Nice songs, I would be down with them in ceremony.
https://pinoleville-nsn.gov/departme...orical-trauma/
Here is the Hopland band
In the link there is the enrollment section under forms.
https://www.hoplandtribe.com/administration
Kashia band enrollment link.
https://www.stewartspoint.org/wp2/enrollment/
Not sure if any of this will help, but I enjoyed looking it up.
Edit: You may get back together with some of your relatives if you haven't already.
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31-10-2020, 05:54 AM
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Green frog skin religion ?
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Ok.
Now I am well and truly in da “I do not know - zone”
I have read Louise Erdrich, but sounds like Greg Sarris books would be very interesting read indeed.
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31-10-2020, 06:04 AM
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Originally Posted by sentient
Ok.
Now I am well and truly in da “I do not know - zone”
I have read Louise Erdrich, but sounds like Greg Sarris books would be very interesting read indeed.
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Money is sometimes called green frog skins.
So, I guess I was suggesting that in order to survive in them days
when it was illegal to be native and practice native ways, many
went into towns to make a living for their families.
Some places it was not much of a choice.
It was a matter of survival.
I would have to agree that the boarding school would have played a big role.
Boarding school is a nice way of saying interment camp where the native was
beaten out the little ones.
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