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22-11-2021, 09:32 AM
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Continued to previous reply,
First I gone in Krishnamurti's teachings/view, I didn't thought about Non-duality. I first very conditioned of "God,Compassion,Love" but the following video made me gone beyond Compassion too and lead to Yoga Vasishta-Upanishads-etc.. and I am here.
Just take your time and check it out, especially after 35:00, but I recommend to start from the start.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9hCYaCOGpk
Aum Shanthi Shanthi Shanthi.
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23-11-2021, 04:18 AM
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QUOTE Post 731 EXCERPT:
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Originally Posted by Viswa
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I did check out your Krishnamurti youtube discussion from the start and started to laugh at 7.49. What is it that dies? Is it the biological organism or the psychological self image? The two renowned western luminaries (Bohm and Shainberg) were made to look like idiots by the native of India.
You must be proud, Viswa. Is time real? Krishnamurti said that time is thought. But we westerners say that time is a dimension of physics. Stay on topic! She says.
As long as the western mind reigns supreme, we will never be free, Viswa. And yet Hitesh Shah would acquiesce.
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23-11-2021, 06:34 AM
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Originally Posted by ayar415
You must be proud, Viswa. Is time real? Krishnamurti said that time is thought. But we westerners say that time is a dimension of physics. Stay on topic! She says.
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Hi ayar. Good observation. I'm not proud of what K said ayar. Because what Bohm asked is a really required thing and only because of that question,they gone beyond "compassion" to "That". If Bohm didn't asked that, they wouldn't have considered western/science too. And I now-a-days consider Bohm's view more than K's, I inspired of Bohm's life (not getting frustrated like K even though he is a person with depression), having a cool-calm-steady-focussed-insightful dialogue so that all viewers questions (both eastern and western) should not be left out.
Krishnamurti restricted himself from learning physics, as knowledge is limited. Even though it is limited - it will point something what they missed out all time.
Namaste.
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23-11-2021, 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by eputkonen
The past only exists as a memory.
The future is only imaginative speculation.
When the mind is silent and there is no thought..."now" is all there is. There is constant change...nothing is static or unmoving. We make up an interval for the "time" it takes something to move from there to here (referring to memory)...but in actuality...everything is only ever-here and ever-now.
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I would have agreed about the past existing only as a memory but for the experiences of those who have had time slips i.e. suddenly being transported to a past time. (Bold Street in Liverpool is notorious for this.) This suggests that the past, present and future co-exist simultaneously - first identified and explained by Einstein.
https://olhardigital.com.br/en/2020/...uro-coexistem/
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23-11-2021, 12:13 PM
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Time does not exist.
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23-11-2021, 12:33 PM
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Hi there Miss. Good to see you again.
What do you think about that? Is time real?
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As I said here way back pages...it's a condition of the 3rd Dimension.
It's as real as the chair you're sitting in...or anything you see with your eyes open.
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Prepare yourself for the coming astral journey of death by daily riding in the balloon of God-perception.
Through delusion you are perceiving yourself as a bundle of flesh and bones, which at best is a nest of troubles.
Meditate unceasingly, that you may quickly behold yourself as the Infinite Essence, free from every form of misery. ~Paramahansa's Guru's Guru.
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23-11-2021, 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Miss Hepburn
As I said here way back pages...it's a condition of the 3rd Dimension.
It's as real as the chair you're sitting in...or anything you see with your eyes open.
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Okay. 3rd Dimension and Real. Sorry, I didn't checked out other replies.
I don't know what you mean by dimensions and it's conditions, it's reality. what is this 3rd Dimension? What are the other two dimensions? Please treat me as a child who doesn't know and how you spoon feed him. Because in spoon feeding many actions and observations can be seen as it is.
Thank you.
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23-11-2021, 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Viswa
I don't know what you mean by dimensions and it's conditions, it's reality. what is this 3rd Dimension?
What are the other two dimensions?.
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Hmm. Since I am not a metaphysical teacher nor a quantum scientist ---how does one explain dimensions?
And how many are there?
(There are youtubes on the subject, tho.)
"The world as we know it has three dimensions of space— length, width and depth—and one dimension of time."
https://phys.org/news/2014-12-universe-dimensions.html
Let's see -
we're in the physical dimension, height, width, depth--add time and space; governed by different laws here, like gravity, yet,
there exists non-physical realms, worlds, dimensions...where there is
no gravity, no time, no physical anything!
As many NDErs will attest to or those that communicate from 'there'... from the Other Side.
Jesus in fact tried to clue us in on 'this place' not being
what we think it is...or all there is.
Interesting you would bring up 'reality'...that's a whole other story!
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Prepare yourself for the coming astral journey of death by daily riding in the balloon of God-perception.
Through delusion you are perceiving yourself as a bundle of flesh and bones, which at best is a nest of troubles.
Meditate unceasingly, that you may quickly behold yourself as the Infinite Essence, free from every form of misery. ~Paramahansa's Guru's Guru.
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23-11-2021, 02:19 PM
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Thanks Miss Hepburn. I checked it out. Yeah there might be non-physical realm experiences too.
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23-11-2021, 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Pea Soup
Time does not exist.
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Einstein showed us that time is just a fourth dimension.
Time locates 'an objects position at a particular moment'
Scroll down to the paragraph starting 'Many physicists, including Einstein...'
https://ysjournal.com/the-4th-dimension/
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